idrisz
4181
awesome games tonight, first game we made an insane come back.
then 2nd game I got a perfect game with mal.
Back in Nooby Land…
I went and picked up the retail collector’s pack off of Amazon. It seemed like a pretty good deal and I wanted a couple of the champions in there, anyway. Then I used the bonus riot points it came with to pick up Sona and Poppy. I need to stop looking at skins, though. 20 bucks for 22 champions seems great but 15 dollars for Firefighter Tristana not so much. But she is super cute.
Pretty busy day tomorrow but I think this week I’ll try some games with actual people. I’m sure I’ll get wrecked but there’s not much more I’m going to get out of playing the crappy bots.
idrisz
4183
there are a few heroes that really aren’t so good, and poppy is one of them.
Xin/olaf/YI fills her role much better than she does.
biggest problem with her is that she can’t farm worth a damn.
Liar! Poppy is hilarious and unique in her ability to just run through a team being both invulnerable and immune to CC and bodyslam a carry for over 1000 damage immediately.
Also, idrisz’s perfect game was pretty amusing. Every teamfight started with Rammus running up and taunting me into the middle of their team. So I basically started walking up towards them and turning on my ult, and letting Rammus lead me into them all while they were wrecked by everyone squishier.
The funniest part was at the very end, where we were at one of their base towers and everyone was dancing around waiting for Therlun to pull someone over the wall. But he kept missing and missing until we finally all just ran face first into their tower and wound up killing the tower and all of them without any of us dying.
Therlun
4185
I remember that quite a bit differently!
I kept missing and missing and then >I< ran in to land a point blank pull… which I also missed.
But they all focused me and for once my team attacked when I initiated and we killed them.
maxle
4186
In one corner we have Luna. In the other, Bunny. Which contender shall earn the title Noobcrank?
Don’t worry Therlun, you’ll land a hit some day. :)
copet
4188
Who needs grabs. Grab movement speed runes/masteries/boots of swiftness and run at them!
yup… Save the pull for your execution move.
That’s ok. I’m not really looking to be a pro or anything, I just played Poppy a few times last week when she was free and had fun. She seems like the kind of champion who is amazing when all of her cooldowns are ready and not so great the rest of the time. But whatever, she was pretty cheap and one of the champs where the RP/IP ratio was pretty good so I spent my leftover points on her.
A friend of mine is really into bard characters so he’s also going to grab Sona. Any suggestions on a really good partner for her?
I just need one more movespeed rune! Blitz is so fun. I am going to purchase him very soon.
Copet, do you ever build him AP? I distinctly remember a game some time ago where we (a qt3 group, including you) feel behind but the other team couldn’t push well and so we just kept steadily farming and caught up with them. You had a coupe of epic pulls while theyh were trying to baron; I think we stole it once and every time they did it we ruined it immediately.
Anyway, I thought you were praising AP blitz that day, but I may be mistaken.
Kirian
4192
Poppy’s an assassin/anti-carry. Those three are melee DPS (first two, although Xin’s quite versatile) and a glass cannon carry+. She’s absolutely brilliant at dropping carries fast or at the least, disrupting their game.
Poppy competes with Akali, Kassadin, Shaco, Jax and Eve. I personally put her on a par with Akali, if not better. Shaco and Kass are still the best two in my opinion.
+Yi is the definition of glass cannon carry.
idrisz
4193
both xin and olaf aren’t really glass cannon carries they are both better used as melee fighter similar to poppy, they go in, pop their ult and do some damage and interruption and they either die or get out real fast.
only difference is that both olaf and xin farm way better than poppy.
copet
4194
I used to do AP blitz before manamune because arch angel’s staff was the only way to get a ton of mana for your mana shield passive. With manamune now, AD can hurt a bunch. I do armor pen runes + magic resist runes and movement quintessences.
With my runes/masteries, all I need is a banshee’s veil and I have around 150 magic resist. Banshee’s veil + manamune gives a lot of mana, which is similar to a taunt, because most people, if they see blitz at 500 health, you focus him, even though his mana shield gives him 1500 more ;)
Kirian
4195
The first two, Xin and Olaf, are melee DPS characters. The third one, Yi, is a glass cannon. That’s what I wrote.
None of those perform Poppy’s job with anywhere near the efficiency Poppy does. Poppy’s early game job is counter-jungling and roaming ganks. Poppy’s mid to late job is to single out, travel to and take down the most dangerous enemy with her incredibly high burst damage, assisted by Sheen procs (which is why Sheen items are core to her).
Xin and Olaf both provide high levels of sustained damage (and some burst from Xin’s ult) but Poppy does burst damage.
What you’re saying, basically, is that Trundle (a melee DPS) is a better assassin than Shaco (an assassin). Yes Shaco does have burst, even if he builds AD/AS. Passive procs and Surprise Buttsex both do a good chunk of damage.
idrisz
4196
Poppy’s early game job is counter-jungling and roaming ganks. Poppy’s mid to late job is to single out, travel to and take down the most dangerous enemy with her incredibly high burst damage, assisted by Sheen procs (which is why Sheen items are core to her).
here is what usually happen to poppy in a normal game.
1.counter jungling and roaming gank get denied by easy warding.
2.lack of early game kills + lack of early game farming(she is roaming hahahaha) leave poppy high and dry on gold
3.mid game poppy fails by dying over and over again because she is unable to reach the squishy in the back with her ult and even if she does manage to get to them, she is unable to finish them off with her burst due to lack of items.
4. team lose team fight over and over again because it’s 4vs5 instead 5vs5.
That’s only because you are terrible with Poppy.
idrisz
4198
no, because poppy is terribad that’s why I don’t play her.
Strangest game I’ve played yet. No inhibitor towers down, we had less kills and they surrendered. Early game had been theirs, mid game was ours but it was by no way over
http://www.lolbase.net/matches/view/EU77156606
So many people would rather just take the loss, take their exp, and move on, if even the slightest hint of a loss creeps in. It’s annoying.
One of the big reasons games “turn around” is getting pushed back to your own base, and getting some kills with the help of base defense. Not to mention the usually huge waves of creeps you get to farm at that point in relative safety. The losing team quite often catches up in this phase of the game, and many a turn around has happened because of it.
