5261

Everything stacks unless it specifically says that it’s UNIQUE.

5262

There used to be builds that had you build a Ghostblade and then another brutalizer. I don’t know if people still do this but I think it does increase your armor pen.

Irelia is supposedly becoming another FotM in some circles, maybe this week is worth figuring out why. And hey a week to try and figure out how not to suck with Kassadin.

5263

Tanky Irelia can’t be stopped.

5264

Yes, by Mundo or Malzahar!!!

5265

How does Mundo counter tanky Irelia?

I know I played a game with some of you a couple weeks ago where we faced a tank Irelia who bursted the crap out of us and couldn’t be stopped. I wish I’d screen shotted her build.

5266

Yeah I’ll be trying this out this week as well.

5267

I’m pretty sure I was in that game. I’m fairly certain it involved an early GA, followed by items to taste. But tanky items.

5268

tanky mundo will eventually outdamage tanky irelia due to the cleaver hit is base on % and his ult basically give him full health ever 36 seconds.

even fully defensive item build mundo(Warmog -> visage -> merc -> sunfire -> FON -> Atma) will end up having 300+ attack from his Sadism which basically give him 100 attack base 100% uptime and more as his hp drops. mundo also have his aura which does another 100 damage a second, which stack with sunfire, so he is doing 140 every second plus he is headbutting you for 300+ plus the cleaver is 25% of your current health or 280 flat out damage.

once mundo is low health he pop his ult and goes from 20%-100% in seconds. oh yeah not mentioning all CC effect last half the duration on him with his burning agony up. there is a reason why mundo go where he pleases.

http://leaguecraft.com/builder/Dr.%20Mundo/?items=16,36,87,62,61,70&level=18

basically anyone saids ignore tanky mundo because mundo does no damage is just fucking insane in the head.

5269

It decreases by 30% (to 70%).

The assist pot is 70% of the the kill reward.

5270

Ah cool, I got that the wrong way around then so :)

5271

Don’t be a fucking fool. The amount of damage that Mundo puts out isn’t even close to a burst carry. The amount of damage that YOU have to output in order to kill Mundo is a waste of time compared to killing the squishy burst carries that are guerrilla hitting your team.

5272

Wrong, the only way to bring down Mundo is focus fire him right off the bat, if you just ignore mundo and chase after squishy carries, you end up never catch anyone, mundo slow with the damn cleaver.

people always scream go for squishy carry(insert ashe/trist/kassadin/sivir/malzahar), except almost every single squishy have some type of escape built in or use their summoner skill. times I got caught as teemo or malzahar or sivir in a team fight is low as hell. as you struggle to chase after the carries, you are just getting your ass whooped on by Dr Mundo.

P.S.

chasing teemo is a bad idea.

5273

No Idrisz he’s right and your being an idiot.

And as for your item build, give someone 14000G on any character and they will win you the game.

5274

Yep we still get this wrong but take down the high damage low defense first - otherwise you have him popping away at you as you take time to take down the lower dps high defence char

5275

Mundo is more annoying than he is scary. He’s sort of hard to kill and will slow your team down, but he’s not gonna walk in and BOOM your team half dead. Even with 300 attack damage he still isn’t that scary relatively speaking.

Also you’re talking about a full on 50+ minute build of items to reach is full capability. At which point everyone else should be conceivably farmed enough to render Mundo back to nuisance status.

With no items, at level 18, Irelia’s Q and E let her burst for 460 damage. So in one combo she’s already done more damage to a target than Mundo, plus applied a slow (and potentially a stun). And she didn’t need any items to achieve this.

5276

at lvl 18, mundo’s cleaver does 25% of your current health, which is around 1600 for most carry 25% of that is 400+…

that’s with mundo NEKKID!!!

Also you’re talking about a full on 50+ minute build of items to reach is full capability. At which point everyone else should be conceivably farmed enough to render Mundo back to nuisance status.

at 50 minutes most of you guys don’t even have 3/4 of the items filled yet.

5277

No Idrisz, that’s not what happens.

5278

Actually, all Mundo needs to hit 300 damage is Warmogs + Atmas + level 5 e. Obviously, you have far less survivability with no tanky items. But his damage will hit 300 when e activates with that build. I don’t think warmogs even needs to be fully stacked, but your hp needs to be well into the 3000s (level 18 mundo with Warmogs is 3700 iirc).

5279

Are people seriously just idiotic in this thread?

WOW OMGZ MUNDO DOES 300 damage 0_o.

…

No he doesn’t. At most he’d be doing 150 damage and that’s still only possible when he is practically dead. This is because he builds no Armor Pen. Also any DPS will do more damage because they build something you might have heard of, it’s called Attack Speed.

And that Cleaver you think is so amazing? It’s going to be doing 18% (at most) of my current Health, which is actually not that great considering how badly it scales throughout a fight. The main bonus of Cleaver is the slow and jungle control, nothing else.

Now stop being a fucking idiot Idrisz.

5280

that’s about right since my build order for mundo is

boots->visage->warmog->atma, my special mundo rune page is mr per level.

also cleaver is 25% not 18%, since I have magic pen as quin and red on my mundo page :)

P.S.
I don’t build Attack speed on my teemo as dps, and I own… so thanks and please take your own advice and STFU.