Therlun
1701
I just played the first game that made me rage… (of about 250).
Its really annoying when you initiate against one or two lone enemy players while your entire team stands three seconds away doing absolutely nothing.
Several times.
Even Mr. super aggressive killstealer Idrisz decided to stay back.
Several times.
maxle
1702
Heh. Which game was that, ther?
Therlun
1703
The one after you left. I’m mad at you about it anyway.
idrisz
1705
you don’t run out engage their entire team right outside of our base wall when rest of team is in the base.
there is nothing I could have done, other than maybe wasted my ult through the wall and not kill any of them.
that’s the problem with team with only 1 carries, if I die, it’s pretty much GG for team fights.
It was me playing miss fortune, we had a trist, but she is somewhat new and didn’t farm as much as she can.
it was a 37 minute game.
I had over 300+ attack, with 157 creep kills, our trist had only 84, the only thing she had was infinity edge when I had manamune, bloodthirster, another BF sword as well as brutalizer.
Xin Zhao can’t lane 1v1 vs a ranged carry, but he can mess one up pretty good in a 2v2 lane with a ranged partner.
idrisz
1707
olaf is probably the only good melee carry with his ult, he is basically unstoppable for 6 seconds.
Arg, have I said yet how much I hate these downtimes that span NZ prime time Friday night? :(
edit Thanks or the tips on Olaf! I’ll check him out.
idrisz
1709
yeah kind of sad, was playing ranked with copet, and we were looking forward to another game after we steamroll in the earlier game.
Fortune and Olaf can still fuck you up even if they are exhausted.
So does Yi if he is geared so yeah, I’d argue exhaust works best on under geared carries and squishy casters.
Kirian
1712
This is what I meant to say. Watch a high-Elo team and you’ll see them running 'zerker greaves on Ez, Ashe and Tristana.
Part of that’s because they’re playing with a team that isn’t going to let any CC or enemy character near their carry, or try like hell not to. That early, cheap AS means you can put off buying an AS item for a bit longer, and you shouldn’t need the movement speed or dodge (both can be found elsewhere if you find you need them) as a carry. The Merc. Treads passive, the only one unique to boots, is amazing but if they’re not going to be CCing you then it’s an expensive item.
Also, QSS and Cleanse beat Exhaust, and most of the high Elo vids I’ve seen have the phys carry run Cleanse for that exact reason.
Tryndamere is the hardest single carry in the game with the most damage potential and he’s melee. He just requires 40+ minutes of farm to do that against decent opponents. Up until the late-game mark he’s terrible. After that he’s one of, if not the single strongest character in the game. Hands up if you’ve seen a tank taunt a farmed Trynd. It’s not pretty.
Calistas: before you get too heavily into theorycrafting, we probably should have mentioned that builds should never be concrete. Your starting items and maybe the first shop visit excepted.
Nezz
1713
Speaking of high Elo matches, the first rounds of the WCG finals are just starting. Streams here:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/wcg2010
Kirian
1714
I think those aren’t actually proper matches. As far as I know it’s a Round Robin so every team can get a quick look at the style of the others.
I caught part of the CLG vs Another Story match. CLG were 14-1 and an inhib up at the 28 minute mark. Which is odd, 'cause the SEA region has typically been the strongest at DotA-likes.
Final score was 22-1 and I don’t think AS even got a tower. It was MF/Veigar/Sona/Shen/Xin (AS) against Galio/Janna/Kog/Ww/Annie (CLG).
Joe_M
1715
Yeah, I mean, it’s cool to read guides and such when you’re starting out. They will give you a good idea what isn’t dreadful for your champion, but once you get into the game for a while you start to understand the mechanics and what you should be buying for a particular game. For example, I will rarely build the same tank the same way twice in a row. Likewise, if you’re a DPS while some core items may remain the same you’ll probably build one survivability item based on what sort of team you’re facing (and boots vary, too).
Re melee champions: the only one I’ve taken a liking to is Xin Zhao, and only after I’d watched a half dozen (or more) of this guys games:
http://www.own3d.tv/user/clgame#/watch/31709 vs Morg
http://www.own3d.tv/user/clgame#/watch/31566 vs a bad Trist
http://www.own3d.tv/user/clgame#/watch/31940 vs Mord
^ started writing this post before the prior two but I’m super slow today
Nezz
1716
The round robin determines the seeding for the following elimination round.
But yeah, some really strange picks there.
Joe_M
1717
Next game is starting shortly. China vs USA on the CLG site, I believe.
http://www.clgaming.net/livestream.php
edit: oh nevermind. It’s going to be an hour or so. :(
I made 30 a few days ago and now I feel like every game I’ve either done everything in my power to help us lose horribly or watched the rest of the team carry my feeding ass to victory. I hate this game so much.
…I can’t wait until I finish building my second rune page!
idrisz
1719
in case you didn’t know, even when olaf have ult up, he can still be exhausted, he won’t be slowed, but he will be blinded, which mean he can’t land a hit at all.
Yi sucks exhausted too, because he can’t hit for shit either, only thing he got left is alpha strike, MF is the only one that can still do decent damage after exhaust since her Q E and R can still land while blinded.
Heck Double UP will hit enemies hidden in a bush. Might hit a stealthed Twitch/Eve/etc too, not sure though.