1901

I just played a game where a teammate went 4/19, which would have been impressive, except another teammate went 1/26. It seems like it’s the kiss of death when people take the res skill.

1902

there was one game where a mundo had revive on enemy team and he was a beast!!!

we still won, but there were team fights where mundo will just kill 3 of our team after we kill rest of theirs.

then when we kill mundo, he just revive and charge right back.

1903

Yeah, I keep assuming enemies with revive will just feed, and then they don’t. It’s annoying.

I never have teammates with revive, because I pretty much only play with five man premades.

1904

Keep in mind, Mundo is practically the only champion where revive is even an option. And even then it’s an awful awful choice.

1905

Ah- you werent in that one where we fought the revive Twisted fate: he would be a big damage carry guy, and hit people a lot. if we bursted him down, he would use revive, and then ult right back into the team fight, or ult right back to push a lane randomly. I too feel that revive is a bad choice, something I can’t see myself ever really getting- but some people just have the guts to pull it off.

1906

All this discussion about revive is freaking me out. If I’m playing Zilean and use my ult, but after coming back die again, is that considered 2 deaths for rewards for my opponent? What about if I have the guardian angel item? You guys are making it sound like the revive utility spell would cause the rewards to occur twice. Am I inferring that correctly?

1907

Zilean’s Ult and GA don’t effect death rewards because they prevent the original death from happening in the first place. The Revive summoner spell however revives you once you’ve actually died (as in your in the death counter screen). Thus if you die, Revive and then die again it will count as 2 deaths.

1908

No, that really is bad. Anyone against Galio/Morgana is bad. Galio/Morg and 'mumu/Morg are ridiculous combinations. Adding Miss Fortune is worse. That’s a bastard team to face, especially as Malz can just lock down Kog’Maw (and Mundo/Olaf 'cause his pool is %health damage). You’ve got two hard CCs on your team against Morgana, Galio and a suppression ult.

Another note on the award they won is that it wasn’t an audience award. It was voted for by “Online industry insiders”, whoever they are. Aion was one of the other games up for that specific award. Not that that makes it any less strange.

I mean, kudos to Riot for running a service as complex as the one they do, arguably way more complex and much bigger than that of HoN, and not having it permanently down. On the other hand, bits and pieces break far too often and the client appears to have a memory leak and some occasional frame rate issues.

1909

Had a great win last night in a really hard fought game. Those are really the most satisfying. It’s fun being on the right side of a blowout, but winning a game that up until the end is anybody’s game, that feels great. It’s especially good when your team gets off to a rocky start and rallies back. Also was solo queue and didn’t end up with a bunch of idiots who start bitching as soon as stuff gets tough.

Also super satisfying, killing a fleeing Yi with Kog’Maw’s ult after he passes out of line of site by guessing where he’s going to be based on his speed and path. That’s a ‘fuck yeah’ moment.

1910

I saw someone once argue why it was viable on Eve.

But yeah revive usually means feeder.

1911

Revive should be replaced by an automatic guardian angel, with a 30-minute cooldown.

1912

just won a game with mf with a different build

went vampiric scepter -> 2x bloodthirster -> frozen mallet -> phantom dancer.

at end of the game I can pretty much solo their entire team with my 50% lifesteal.

though it start out a whole lot slower compare to my older build of manamune…

1913

I like BTs, but man do they take a while to build. For half the price, or so, if you are mostly after the life steal, I like the executioner’s calling. Let’s me get on to other items quicker.

You are making me think about two ECs now tho, hehe.

But if you can afford two BTs, great!

1914

BT is 100 damage 25% lifesteal vs EC which is only 18% LF and 15% crit.

I think a built up BT is the most cost efficient damage item right now.

whole point of stacking BT is have massive attack + massive lifesteal.

since MF’s Q actually gain lifesteal effect, so you can potentially gain over 500+ hp with one Q, her Q will inflict target with any orb effects.

1915

You can’t realistically use a fully stacked Bloodthrister as an item comparison.

1916

Yeah you can, it’s much easier to stack BT compare to mejai. it’s extremely fast for range carries to clear minion waves.

it takes same amount of time to stack 1 BT as 2 BT as well.

1917

BT stacks off minions as well? I was always unsure of that. Interesting.

Yeah, I went EC instead of BT as I always get an IE and the BT makes getting the IE, for me, a very drawn out process. I am seeing my games go gank-happy at lvl 13 or sooner and if I try for the BT I usually don’t have it by then (on top of boots, etc) and so am fairly useless to the team. If you are able to get there sooner than me (almost certain) that is awesome and I am jealous!

Hmm. I am tempted to try a double BT build on Trist now, just for the lulz.

1918

P.S. There is an item that improves healing effects on self, right? Does it stack on to the lifesteal effect?

1919

The tricky thing about BT that nobody mentions is that you lose ALL of its stacks every time you die. So if you die in a teamfight in the late game you have to go farm up about seven creep waves to get back those 40 stacks. 40 minion kills isn’t a tiny amount you know, unless you plan on never dying.

1920

I plan on never dying as MF or trist.

near the late game with double BT build, I could close my eyes and my auto attack will kill most of other player, was getting 150 hitpoint back an attack(uncrit), and I was attacking 2+ a second with W and I crit for 600(heal for 300) 30% of the time.

last game I had a ryze unload on me with his ult as well as akali attacking me, so I shot akali first, then she cloak, and I killed rzye in the time when akali was hiding in the shroud, and then kill akali when she appear again with just auto attack, came out with full health. Oh yeah the Akali is really good, she had 8 kills in the first 10 minutes of our game.