Let Us Argue About Food. Be Nice.

Are the beef and impossible burgers the same, except for the patty? If so, it seems like your burger place is trying to layer on substantial extra profit on the impossible, which is unfortunate. My understanding is cooking and handling them is little different than for beef burgers, so it isn’t a labor thing.

I didn’t try the impossible, I just have an impression they pricing for the white people moving in.

I tried their bean patty once, it was not very good and more expensive as well. It was basically black beans glued together.
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Pretty much same ingredients, just patty change.

*Did a quick check, target says it’s $12 a lb for beyond burgers. Assuming it’s a 1/4 lb patty that’s $3 just from the patty. For a big 1/3 lb patty that’s $4 a patty.

Beef on the other hand is $1.5 a patty. I guess it’s not that horrible a markup then.

I have no idea what that picture you posted is from. This is what the impossible burger looks like:

Can confirm, between me and my daughter we’ve had a dozen or so.

That’s from the menu of the place I order from.

The picture looks more like a classic garden burger. The impossible burger looks very close to a meat burger.

Oh wait! I snipped the wrong one! Sorry!

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Still looks off somehow to me but I wonder if they just have bad photo taking skills?

The weirdest thing about the impossible is that it practically bleeds.

That seems absurd to me.

The big reason to move to fake meat burgers, at least in my mind, is that they’re cheaper and less resource intensive to produce compared to raising livestock.

Ground beef is generally gonna be less than $4 a pound. Paying three times that suggests something is wrong.

It’s around 5 dollars for two small uncooked patties in the local grocery store, so about twice what hamburger is, and that was Beyond Meat, not Impossible. Red Robin charged an extra 2 dollars. It’s really not affordable, and it’s debatable if it is any healthier… having said that, it tastes a lot like meat. If heart patient and anyone on heavily restricted diets could have access to these… win.

Maybe it’ll get cheaper as they scale up… also, perhaps they are just charging extra for the novelty factor at this point.

Keep in mind that the government subsidizes the cattle industry directly to the tune of about $38 billion per year, and indirectly in the form of subsidies for feed producers and through the beef industry’s regulatory capture of agencies like the USDA and FDA, which provide free advertising for it with the use of food pyramids and school lunches and etc. Beef also has economy of scale. About 26 billion pounds of beef are produced in the U.S. per year vs. Impossible, which makes maybe 10 million pounds a year. (They were producing 500,000 pounds per month in 2018.)

Yes, it’s absurd that for mostly political/ cultural / distribution reasons, a product that tastes about the same costs so much more. It’s made out of the stuff cows eat! (well, one of them is soy-based, the other is pea protein I believe.) Aren’t the nation’s soy farmers suffering from too much stock ever since the Trade Wars 2018?*

  • The worst BBS door.

Impossible uses proprietary genetically modified yeast to make its burgers taste like meat, so that probably adds to the cost, in R&D if nothing else.

I am also under the impression it took them years to get something that that is plant based to attract meat eaters which is why there is some weird backlash with these but… gotta recoup that.

I can’t tell if this is sarcasm. If I make coffee in my drip brewer at home, it costs me pennies. If I buy it at Starbucks down the street, it costs me 100x more. I can buy a bottle of cheap brandy for $10, or I can buy a bottle of high-end brandy for 100x that much. They taste about the same.

If all beef burger eaten in the U.S. was replaced by Impossible burger, I’d be willing to bet that it would require far less land, water, gas, and other resources than beef production does. Not to mention benefits like less antibiotic usage and less runoff of fertilizer and manure products into water supplies.

Wait, that link is from them isn’t it? As in the makers of the Impossible Burger itself?

I don’t know if I would make the jump to impossible burgers, but my wife and I have decided to reduce eating meat if possible because of its impact on the environment. Also, perhaps vegetarians have a point about the whole ethical treatment of animals.

We have had mixed success. Meat replacements are tricky to work with or expansive

Not sarcasm. I am decrying human situation. Our modern potlatch is disposable iProducts.

It would be good if these patties replace a good portion of meat production as it’s more environmental.I am decrying the higher cost at the supermarket. Part of it is because specialist products cost more, I’m sure, but sometimes it’s just weird. Why is lactaid twice as much when they just took shit out of the milk?

It is, but are you surprised by the findings? Even if the impact isn’t as large as they state, it stands up to reasonable scrutiny. The study itself was conducted by Quantis, which has a vested interest in producing accurate information.

I am taking the word of a company that made the product itself. I am sure you can find some boasting about the benefits of beef from their lobbying group too. They will need several studies before i am on board with what they claim.