2793

Chip Jones somehow striking out at Tee-ball.

2794

I dunno. That’s going to resonate a helluvalot with the Trump crowd. And he barely had to make an effort.

2795

But he had a chance to hit the middle. Instead he managed to say something that would make the middle view him as an idiot.

2796

Yeah, the argument that banning the word bitch is wrong… Because it’s sexist against men… Is choosing the worse possible argument, from a multitude of totally valid arguments.

2797

Will it still be legal to say “beeyotch”?

2798

I mean, it’ll still be legal to say bitch, so… yes.

2799

So what’s all the fuss about then?

2800

Passing a law that stupid and unConstitutional means the lawmakers don’t even have a passing understanding of how laws work.

It’s like if, say, New Jersey passed a law saying that cops no longer need warrants for any reason. The people who made that law shouldn’t be lawmakers. Or anything really. Maybe they can be Youtube celebrities, but nothing involving law making or enforcement that’s for sure.

2801

I agree with this, but would like to point out that no law was passed. The law was presented at a Joint Committee meeting that also heard presentations of 70 other petitions, and will likely never be heard from again.

  1. Liberals are definitely not uniquely bad on first amendment issues.
  2. Our legal and political culture is actually, in general, pretty good on these issues across party lines.
  3. But yeah, a bill to ban the word “bitch” is really dumb.
2802

Fair, but even presenting it is stupid and I think what I said applies to it.

And no, Liberals are certainly not unique. We literally have supposedly “conservative” Congress people suing people on Twitter while the NRA is telling people to get ready to kill people for saying mean things bout the President.

2803

Wasn’t this whole tempest spawned in this particular teapot because MA has some weirdo thing about how citizens can present proposals for statutes to a court or something?

Anyway, duh, obviously you can’t legislate words out of existence and anyone who thinks otherwise is the worst sort of mollycoddled undergrad.

I rather think that the current opprobrium over the N word has had a much more positive effect than if the Congress had passed a law against its use.

2804

Don’t forget Republican-led laws that actually passed to criminalize protest and sanction companies that boycott Israel.

2805

Yes. Those are insanity incarnate. Literally laws against against political speech… of a fucking foreign nation no less.

Actually worse than many dictatorships in that respect.

2806

So I guess genocide is fine because reasons or something. Or maybe it wasn’t a “real” genocide?
It’s hard to parse and what I can parse seems stupid.

2807

Generously, it sounds like a principled objection (based on waiting this long to vote on it) to something that she knew would pass, and thus was freely able to indicate her discontent.

The objection being: If you want to condemn a genocide, lets actually condemn a genocide, and don’t only do it as a fuck you to Trump re: the Kurds. It’s not that one genocide is worse than another, but if we’re going to condemn genocides, we should be consistent about what defines one, and also be honest about looking at the ones that are uncomfortable for the US. To only condemn those that are politically expedient cheapens the act.

2808

So all genocide gets ignored then?

Because that’s basically the only end result of that stance.


2809

It’s like she didn’t even finish reading the sentence.

Omar has a point. This is crass, the equivalent of using “Remember 9/11” to promote your golf course. And if anyone complains, it must mean that they don’t want to remember 9/11.

Rep. Engel couldn’t even remember two things about Armenians before getting to what was actually on his mind.

Many of us are concerned with what’s going on in various parts of the world. The Armenian Genocide is a Genocide, and many of us are concerned with, frankly, others, including the Kurds. It is happening right now and Turkey is again in the thick of things.

2810

Well, no, because her vote didn’t prevent the resolution from passing. It’s a classic safe protest vote.

2811

Refusing to condemn genocide seems a weird thing to take a protest vote on.

2812

That same sort of logic is how we ended up with laws that outlawed drugs and homosexual activities, because refusing to protect our children seems like a weird thing to take a protest vote on right?