Timex
3239
I’m pretty sure you can classify an accusation that D&D is super right wing, as being a super left wing idea.
It’s super interesting that this is literally the only thread where anyone makes such a complaint.
That’s a transgender polyamorous lesbian if I remember the twitter bio right. I would be surprised to learn they’re conservative.
Nesrie
3241
If you look at the other examples, AOC, Taylor Swift, Krystal Ball (that’s a verified account), those are verified, real life, people who have a clear political slant.
You can’t just take some random person you don’t know and say, looks left to me, sounds about right and then call it a “left wing take”.
We have stupid shit on Social Media around here too. Sounds like that’s a better place for random shit found on the Social Media but don’t know anything more about it than that than here.
Timex
3242
Hmm… Pretty sure I can. Yep. I can. Because that’s clearly what this is.
Nesrie
3243
Use your Sesame Street skills.
I certainly know the type, and they exist, but I agree they are not a majority. Way back in the before times (I mean before cell phones, not before COVID) I was the president of my universities role playing games association. Which meant we had open-to-anyone-in-the-student-body D&D games on a weekly basis. So we definitely saw some real winners along the lines you described. That soured me on playing tabletop RPGs with randos which is why I haven’t done much in that regard in the last two decades.
Associating certain people with RPGs is sort of like associating certain people with religions though. In a lot of cases it’s more about the people and the culture and the crowd of friends and the location. The fact that they are playing D&D is an irrelevant detail. My current D&D group contains at least two elected officials (both D) and only one person who is even registered to vote R. We are a bastion of liberality in a red state. That doesn’t really mean anything regarding D&D, it’s just a description of my circle of friends.
ShivaX
3245
She’s very not conservative.
She seems to be the opposite of all things conservative from her feed.
Also I love how this is the one thread on the entire forum where the rules get changed on a daily basis.
Like… I made the thread, but now it has a hundred subrules that never existed just so people can dictate what is “allowed” here.
I even renamed it, but that wasn’t enough.
No one freaks out if I put Ben Shapiro in the “GOP is immoral” thread despite him not being an elected official or part of the party. But if I link anyone who isn’t a currently serving member of the Democratic Party here, everyone freaks the fuck out.
This isn’t “elected liberals who are Twitter verified and agreed upon to be liberal by a vote of the shadow council of at least 2/3rds majority also say and do stupid shit”. It’s just liberal people, of all walks of life, also say stupid shit sometimes. But somehow that is an attack on all people hold dear if we acknowledge that some hippie chick in Wisconsin said something stupid one time and it was kinda funny.
Threadcops gotta threadcop.
ShivaX
3247
But they pretty much exclusively do it here. I could almost overlook it if it was an across the forum thing, but it really isn’t.
I only play humans in D&D. Human Paladins
And that one lesbian tiefling. She was my favorite.
If only it were possible to know the political leanings of the person who invented the game. Sadly, they are lost to the ages, a mystery which can never be solved.
Also, too, saying the game is a right-wing fantasy isn’t the same thing as saying that the people who play it are all right-wing fantasists.
Nesrie
3250
You don’t even know if the twitter account is a she.
I mean someone decides they have discovered some new liberal take, maybe, just maybe make sure that person is actually who they say they are.
Ben Shapiro’s social media accounts are… verified. He’s not some literal random unknown. You can at least talk about someone with a history, an actual record. They don’t have to be elected. There are journalists, comedian, actors, politicians… just running around finding something you think sounds liberal like from someone who kind of seems liberal like in some weirdo stereotypical way. Oh my goodness. What could possiblly go wrong with being two steps away from saying all lesbians or transgenders must be liberal… say that out-loud a few times.
Timex
3251
It’s because this is really the only thread where left leaning folks and their beliefs are mocked, whereas the rest of the forum is pretty focused on mocking right wing beliefs. And really, that’s fine.
But it’s like… When people posts stuff about random Nazis or MAGA heads, no one is like, “well those guys are just randos… They don’t count.”
There’s some weird idea here that any criticism of anyone on the left is directed at EVERYONE on the left, and such criticism simply cannot be allowed to stand unchallenged.
But that’s not what this thread is. It’s not a condemnation of all left wing thought.
It’s just meant to point and laugh at the idiots who exist on the left… Because they do in fact exist. People on the left are not all super smart, awesome people. Some of them are freaking idiots. Like any group of people.
LockerK
3252
I can assure you this isn’t the only thread where Timex gets called out on posting tweets from random nobodies.
Timex
3253
Yeah, but those other times were for based on EXACTLY the same premise.
Because i dared to post stupid things that Bernie bros said, to mock them.
The reason folks got upset, was that it suggested that some Bernie bros were in fact useless jackasses. Which they are. And it’s ok make fun of them for it.
Just like it’s ok to make fun of random Nazis and Trump supporters who are idiots.
Nesrie
3254
Bullshit.
My motivations mine. Ask me if you have the guts. Go ahead. Find an actual liberal. There’s million of them, many verified, and have at it.
You keep posting unverified accounts like they’re real things over, and over and over again.
Those are real pictures of real people at rallies, on video, on verified accounts and in news articles.
You posted an unverified account with a cartoon on it that says they’re a girl in real life and proceeded to call it the left wing take in D&D.
ShivaX
3255
I mean if they say they identify as “She/Her” I go with it.
Sure. But verification just means you verified you’re that person. There are plenty of random fucks on Twitter who are verified. There are also a ton who aren’t.
Monte Cook isn’t verified. Most of the press corp… aren’t verified. Popehat, not verified.
And random fucks who are verified: Derek Arabian aka Dunktrain, Lolish a random artist no one but me knows, etc.
It’s more a matter of who is willing to jump through the hoops Twitter requires. A checkmark isn’t anything special other than showing that someone with it who claims to be a famous person is that person.
Why?
Honest question.
D&D has evolved so much over the 40-ish years since its invention that it bears little resemblance to the original question. And the political leanings and views of the original creators need to be viewed through the lens of 1970s politics. I just honestly don’t see how that has any bearing on any modern discussion of D&D.
Timex
3257
No… It’s definitely not bullshit.
But… Who cares? I mean… What do your beliefs have to do with this?
Most people on Twitter are not verified… Yet they are in fact real people.
Like, the person in question here, in this most recent segment… Do you think that they are somehow a fake person? That they are a bot or something?
No… i called it A left wing take on D&D. Not THE left wing take. I’m pretty sure there is no universal “left wing take” on D&D.
ShivaX
3258
See, this is where you’re wrong. He said a left wing person said it.
Everyone to the left of Reagan isn’t the same. I don’t understand why this is the argument that keeps getting made.
Because it’s obviously untrue. No one has ever said it here… except liberals (well and the occasional troll that ends up banned before the day ends). Which… I can’t even.
No one is claiming everyone on the left is monolithic… except neoNazis and, ironically, people on the left. We ignore the Nazis because they’re fucking Nazis and they’re only good for being corpse piles.