Well, NY didn’t elect him governor. Nor president, either.
It’s an interesting take that I don’t buy.
for most of my life, up through the election of Obama, there was still a New Deal, “Yes we can!,” and “We can do it!” optimism that sat side-by-side with the New Left’s fundamentally disempowering critique of the system.
That’s all gone. On climate change, drug deaths, and cultural issues like racism, the message from progressives is that we are doomed unless we dismantle the institutions responsible for our oppressive, racist system. Those of us in Generation X who were raised to believe that racism was something we could overcome have been told in no uncertain terms that we were wrong.
IMHO, it reads more like someone who got stuck and thinks the problem(s) are too big and is giving up.
I do that sometimes, but always come back because it’s not as if there’s a choice, particularly WRT Climate Change.
Menzo
4719
Yeah that’s all bullshit. Besides the fact that I don’t think that guy was ever a progressive. If I were to guess, he’s a libertarian masquerading as one. And this manifesto reads like a wet dream for Qtards looking to knock Libtards down a peg. Perhaps this guy is looking for a new audience?
In June 2020, Shellenberger published Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All , in which the author argues that climate change is not the existential threat it is portrayed to be in popular media and activism. Rather, he posits that technological innovation and capital accumulation, if allowed to continue and grow, will remedy environmental issues
Here are two great John Lewis quotes. He knew that change wasn’t something that happens overnight. It’s a lifetime effort.
“Take a long, hard look down the road you will have to travel once you have made a commitment to work for change. Know that this transformation will not happen right away. Change often takes time. It rarely happens all at once. In the movement, we didn’t know how history would play itself out. When we were getting arrested and waiting in jail or standing in unmovable lines on the courthouse steps, we didn’t know what would happen, but we knew it had to happen.”
— Lewis on protesting in Across That Bridge: Life Lessons and a Vision for Change
“Ours is not the struggle of one day, one week, or one year. Ours is not the struggle of one judicial appointment or presidential term. Ours is the struggle of a lifetime, or maybe even many lifetimes, and each one of us in every generation must do our part.”
― Lewis on movement building in Across That Bridge: A Vision for Change and the Future of America
Thanks, didn’t do the research, just saw it on memeorandum
wahoo
4722
Why do you think Cuomo did a decent job with the pandemic?
He overruled health care experts to mandate that nursing homes re-admit Covid patients. So brining back Covid patients into a population with elderly people went as well as you expect which is why NY had a large proportion of deaths.
Of course, the Cuomo administration hid the data to obscure how bad that decision was and make the death count look better.
Cuomo did the worst good job handling Covid. His responses were consistently too little and too late, but he did eventually respond in mostly the right way, just with some grandstanding thrown in for flavor.
The nursing home thing, while living rent free in Fox News minds, probably wasn’t the worst of it, mostly because I give it some leeway from mostly coming during the chaotic early days. There was some very weird shenanigans where he over-ruled well established and practiced pandemic response vaccination plans and just kind of re-invented it on the spot, which made absolutely no sense, but that was the point at which his luster was already fading.
Timex
4724
I mean, this is obviously not true. Right? I mean, just from a purely objective sense, Cuomo’s handling of covid was dramatically better than the Federal government’s.
Cuomo actually inspired some degree of faith in the government’s ability to handle the situation, while the federal government’s handling was so catastrophically bad that it was like watching a train wreck.
EDIT: I just realized that I misread what you said. I’m not exactly sure what “worst good job” means. I originally read it as “worst job”.
In terms of the nursing home thing, I think that’s something where we have the benefit of hindsight, and also there may have been issues with the hospital capacity at the time, as the hospitals were entirely flooded and they were setting up emergency facilities.
Also, the nursing homes were not the sole cause of the high death count in NYC. Total nursing home deaths in NYC were around 5k, even if you count the ones the Cuomo “covered up”. Total deaths in NYC were over 30k.
I think it means that the federal government (and many (Republican) states) did obviously bad jobs responding to the pandemic, and Cuomo’s response is at the bottom of the “good” responses. I actually think it’s a perfect summary.
This is the sort of thing I was remembering when I first made the “claim” (if we can call my hazy memory a “claim”): Seattle’s Leaders Let Scientists Take the Lead. New York’s Did Not | The New Yorker
ShivaX
4727
Likewise.
The nursing home thing is big imo and that he tried to cover it all up is, honestly, bigger in a lot of ways.
Yeah the benefit of hindsight is meaningless if you try to hide it entirely.
Cuomo was essentially the equivalent of Avenatti. Lots of publicity which the media loved and over amplified because he would attack Trump.
But the underlying fundamentals were of incompetence.
Timex
4730
I do not believe this is an accurate portrayal of events.
Joe not really a liberal. Though yes, fuck him.
WRT to Covid, it sure seemed like it from CA. IMHO, Newsom was doing a much better job than Cuomo, and we definitely see that in the Nursing home shenanigans.
Timex
4734
Yeah, I gotta say, this is definitely not true at all.
Look at these two graphs, showing each state’s death rate:
First we’ve got New York. There’s a giant spike, very early. To a large extent, I think some portion of that was baked in, because we didn’t know exactly what we were dealing with at that point. We had folks testing people, “everything is fine, keep going to restaurants!”
But after that initial spike? New York essentially solved covid.
I’m not sure how much of that initial spike can be attributed to poor action, given how early it happened, but it seems like the action taken afterwards was correct, and got the job done.
Here’s California.
The deaths that happened in California mostly happened after we already saw the shit go down in new York. There had the benefit of hindsight, and STILL had a major spike in covid deaths when the winter rolled around. New York didn’t.
That suggests, to me, a failure in leadership on California’s part.
Now, certainly, California has a lot more people, so that plays into it, but the pattern of the deaths in California compared to the pattern in new York suggests that California’s response was not nearly as decisive, despite having seen stuff happen in new York already.
Alstein
4735
It’s a lot easier to control a city that is heavily Democratic, than California with a huge rural area that is a lot like Alabama, with much of the same mentality.
If you’re comparing a city of 8 million people in 302 square miles to a state of 40 million people in 164,000 square miles, you’re probably doing it wrong.
