5421

It’s clear to me this is what she meant, but it came off really poorly.

5422

The Gravel Institute was born out of the 2020 presidential bid of eccentric late Alaskan Sen. Mike Gravel, and explicitly styled itself as a counterweight to right-wing YouTube phenomenon PragerU. Its stylish videos have included left-wing luminaries such as Cornel West and Slavoj Zizek and celebrities like comedian David Cross and voice actor H. Jon Benjamin. It announced a new board of directors earlier this month featuring bold-faced names like ex-Ohio state Sen. Nina Turner and Jacobin magazine founder Bhaskar Sunkara, neither of whom replied on the record to requests for comment.

On Feb. 18, the group published a YouTube video entitled “How America Funded Ukraine’s Neo-Nazis,” which, following online criticism, was renamed “America, Russia, and Ukraine’s Far-Right Problem.” The video reiterated several of the Kremlin’s favorite narratives: namely that Ukrainian nationalism is a Nazi-linked phenomenon born in the 1940s, and that it has taken root in Kyiv and the rest of the country, in opposition to its pro-Russian east.

“It’s tweet-and-delete, tweet-and-delete with them,” said Sophie Fullerton, a human rights researcher at Columbia University. “It seems like they’re just spewing misinformation to see if they get a positive reaction or not. And if they get a positive reaction, they keep it up, and if they get a negative reaction, they’ll try to go back and clean it up.”

5423

The founder of Jacobin is full of shit?

You don’t say?

5424

I deliver to you today’s liberal stupidity.

I mean, two out of three ain’t bad, but that first one? Good grief. Talk about a failure of timing!

5425

Technically, we ARE negotiating with Russia. They aren’t negotiating with us, hence sanctions.

5426

Man I know “global thermonuclear war” and all, but all I want to say is to invite Russia to negotiate with deez.

5427

One of my sons briefly worked for her campaign last cycle. He did not come out of it with a great impression of her as a candidate.

5428

I can say sometimes folks do better in office than they do as candidates.

My Congresswoman definitely fits that category. disaster of a candidate, got gerrymandered in against my wishes, but has been good in Congress.

5429

I don’t get this. Sanctions, to me, are a hardball negotiation tactic. The breakdown of negotiation involves either capitulation or force. Which are you advocating? Maybe I’m stupid too–I readily confess I’m not particularly well informed on this–but it’s not obvious to me what the correct U.S. response is to Russia’s invasion of the Ukraine. And it’s weird to castigate anyone who continues to suggest diplomacy. What other option is there? Should we send in the troops?

5430

I’m complaining about the implication that “we should negotiate with Russia” is a new idea, a new alternative, that we haven’t been doing it all along, that we aren’t (as you say) doing it right now; and that what is meant by it is that we shouldn’t be doing those things that we are doing, that we should be doing something else instead.

Anybody who looks at the current situation and says that the problem is we haven’t been negotiating with Russia and that we should try that is an idiot. Sorry.

5431

We tried to negotiate to get them to not to do it. They did it anyways.

This is when you have to punish. Russia forced a position where one side has to capitulate. We’ll likely have to do the same to China eventaully. I fully expect an economic cold war between parliamentary EU-style democracy and managed democracy with the Americas (including us) and Africa as the main battlegrounds.

5432

Liberal Politicians say and do corrupt shit as well. It’s the Chicago Way, I suppose…

5433

Right, and now we can negotiate when the sanctions end. Carrots and sticks need to be every-other. Russia is going to look like Cuba TIMES A THOUSAND! Or maybe not, but no major country has faced this hard a retaliation outside of military action in the modern age.

5434

Ok so these guys are socialists.

This is them down in Austin Texas.

They appear to be carrying… The Soviet flag?

It seems like, even if you hate capitalism, the soviet union probably isn’t the greatest example to say, “this is what we want!”

5435

That’s the DNR flag.

5436

The one on the left isn’t.

5437

Yeah, the one the guy is holding on the left in mirror to the US flag is the soviet union flag, I’m pretty sure.

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5438

Yup, that one’s the old hammer and sickle, which is really less offensive than the DNR flag.

Since “The Soviet Flag?” had that question mark, I was just answering what the big flag in the middle was.

Heh, this group is so obscure it doesn’t even rate a wiki page. Their youtube channel has a whopping total of 485 subscribers. Unsuccessful Russian front “think thank” is unsuccessful.

5439

I have no idea what their ideology is, but the presence of the Z placard and the flags? Fuck those guys.

5440

Tankies gonna tank. They don’t even care who they tank for.

Fascists? Sure why not? As long as they’re oppressing people, that’s what matters.

Edit: Ironically this rolled across my feed right after I said this.