Lost

Lloyd_Heilbrunn · 2007-05-24T08:11:43.000Z

mystery:

Sawyer has no “friends” and certainly no family, yet Jack has a connection to him, so he shows up at the viewing when no one else would.

The question that came to mind,whoever it was, is who schedules a viewing, and then does not show up??

The island does some amazing things,ages Walt about four years in the 90 days they are there(damn child actors).

Alan_Dunkin · 2007-05-24T08:13:28.000Z

Well the one little thing might be that Charlie had to die not to disable the jamming so Jack could call for Naomi’s boat, but to talk to Penny, which I think will be very significant somehow.

It’s also possible a lot of people stayed, but aside from Ben, Danielle (and Alex), and Locke (and maybe the Others), I don’t see why.

— Alan

Gremlinclr · 2007-05-24T08:13:39.000Z

mystery:

I was only aggravated in this episode by one fact: There were about 5 bazillion reasons for Charlie not to die, even given Desmond’s accurate portrayal of events. Plus the fact that the second we see eye-patch down on the floor with the harpoon sticking out of his chest, my wife yells: “Now shoot him in the fucking head!” I love that woman.

Yea, he could have saved himself but I think he truly believed no one would be rescued if he didn’t die.

Alan_Dunkin · 2007-05-24T08:15:02.000Z

It would really be messed up (which was said earlier) if the rest of the show was just flash-forwarded 815ers living out their new lives and flashing back to the island. Yikes.

Oh yeah, the funeral home’s name is an anagram for “flash forward”.

— Alan

Lloyd_Heilbrunn · 2007-05-24T08:24:48.000Z

Alan_Dunkin:

It would really be messed up (which was said earlier) if the rest of the show was just flash-forwarded 815ers living out their new lives and flashing back to the island. Yikes.

— Alan

Takes all suspense away.

It was good as a twist, but would kill the show every week.

Skipper · 2007-05-24T08:46:10.000Z

Great season finale. Only a couple of things could have made it better though …

Kill Ben. I’m sick of the monologuing. There is no reason for them to keep him alive.
I’m with Jason here, please kill off Ms. “I can’t make up my mind and will never stick with a guy” Kate. I’m sick of her sad puppy faces at whoever the interest of the moment is.

Vesper · 2007-05-24T09:39:43.000Z

Machfive:

The problem was, he didn’t have to accept it. He had enough time to run out of the com room before the grenade went off and lock the door from the outside. Hell, they wouldn’t need the SCUBA gear to get to the surface, swimming down is much slower than swimming up is.

On the other hand, if they went this route… Charlie would take a deep breath, jump in the water, start swimming up, and then die from lung overexpansion.

More physics fun: The room he sealed off wouldn’t fill up with water. The air would get pressurized into a small area at the ceiling and water would stop coming in. Of course, he would then be breathing pressurized air and get the bends when he escaped.

/Scubanerd

arctangent · 2007-05-24T10:06:17.000Z

Vesper:

On the other hand, if they went this route… Charlie would take a deep breath, jump in the water, start swimming up, and then die from lung overexpansion.

More physics fun: The room he sealed off wouldn’t fill up with water. The air would get pressurized into a small area at the ceiling and water would stop coming in. Of course, he would then be breathing pressurized air and get the bends when he escaped.

/Scubanerd

The whole station was pressurized to the ambient pressure at whatever depth it was at, otherwise the opening in the bottom would be letting in water.

Warning · 2007-05-24T10:15:19.000Z

Just doing my part to get this thread to page 100.

Hanacker · 2007-05-24T10:19:17.000Z

Machfive:

So in addition to all the bad juju Tom’s earned for almost killing Sawyer, killing Anna Lucia and Libby, and turning Michael, he would’ve actually killed 3 of the coolest characters on the show (I include Bernard because the him and Rose moments are so cute).

After selling out his wife (and the rest of the group) to the Others, Bernard deserved to die.

Machfive · 2007-05-24T10:24:42.000Z

Hanacker:

After selling out his wife (and the rest of the group) to the Others, Bernard deserved to die.

He’s a fucking dentist. You can’t blame the guy for cracking. If he hadn’t spilled the beans, they actually would’ve shot Jin.

Mark_Crump · 2007-05-24T10:26:57.000Z

Hanacker:

After selling out his wife (and the rest of the group) to the Others, Bernard deserved to die.

He’s a dentist, not Rambo.

Jason_McMaster · 2007-05-24T10:38:32.000Z

I like Bernard, and though it bothers me he sold them out, it was understandable.

Jason_McMaster · 2007-05-24T10:39:08.000Z

How far til 100?

Jason_McMaster · 2007-05-24T10:39:39.000Z

This isn’t it.

SlainteMhath · 2007-05-24T10:40:20.000Z

arctangent:

The whole station was pressurized to the ambient pressure at whatever depth it was at, otherwise the opening in the bottom would be letting in water.

I was thinking if Charlie hadn’t managed to close and seal that hatch in time, wouldn’t the change in pressure from the blown porthole basically have made the dive pool water start flooding into the big chamber as well? Once all that water starts pouring in, it’s going to be nearly impossible to close the hatch or swim out through the dive pool. I’m not sure that’s the way pressurization works though.

If so, maybe that’s why he didn’t want to risk trying to jump out and close the hatch from the outside. Although I do like the idea that he felt he needed to sacrifice himself for Desmond’s vision to come true and his friends to be rescued.

Jason_McMaster · 2007-05-24T10:42:19.000Z

Yeah, as soon as the pressure shifted, all hell would have broken loose. That’s why Charlie closed it. I kind of wish that he hadn’t died, but there’s some romance to the idea of dying to save everyone else.

madkevin · 2007-05-24T10:44:39.000Z

100 pages! WOOOOOOOT!

Lloyd_Heilbrunn · 2007-05-24T10:57:59.000Z

Jason_McMaster:

I like Bernard, and though it bothers me he sold them out, it was understandable.

Actually,he played it right. If dead Jin has no chance to escape…

jeffd · 2007-05-24T11:21:47.000Z

What a great episode. Took them three years but Lost finally figured out how to do a good season finale.

So the obvious questions (and yeah other people have brought them up; I’m just consolidating here)

Did everyone get off the island? If not, then there’s an obvious reason for Jack to want to go back (he feels he abandoned his friends). If so, then wtf?
Is Christian Shephard alive? Jack makes a comment to the doctor about being more sober than his father; and when he’s trying to get pills he gives the pharmacist a prescription from his father as well.
Who was in the coffin? I don’t think it’s Sawyer; I think the folks guessing Juliette or Locke are right. Though why would Locke leave the island?
Who’s the “him” that Kate has to go back to? My guess is Sawyer.

I think the reason Locke killed Naomi but not Jack is pretty clear - Locke knows Jack. They’re not friends, but he’s got enough of a bond with him to not want to just shoot him.