Yeah, but maybe the smoke monster destroys uteruses or something too. I don’t think this time thing is suddenly the answer to every other mystery we’ve ever seen, and now that we’ve finally got some characters both on and off the island, we’ve seen no huge schism like “Crashed 5 years ago? We’ve only been here 80 days!” or something like that. So I think it’s really just in the transition to and from the island that time gets weird.
She was standing in front of the Christmas tree like he had caught her while she was in the middle of decorating it, and as far as the FACTS of the MATTER are concerned what I’m saying is that the big climax was a short, awkward, anti-climactic phone conversation.
One that had people on crying on this board, and others that I looked at.
You might need to get your soul checked…
I kinda teared up. But I cried at the ending to Terminator 2, so I’m kinda weird.
Back to time awesomesauce:
Bingo. Each place, time is moving at the same rate, but the act of crossing between the outside world and the island (and vice versa) causes a time disconnect which is evidenced by the rocket clock and the 20 minute helo ride that took a day (which took off at dusk and landed at dawn, IIRC).
Since time moves slower the closer you get to lightspeed, the pathway between the island and the outside world is probably some sort of rip in the fabric of spacetime.
Think of it like a guy from Australia hopping on a plane to Los Angeles and passing over the international dateline, but instead of the dateline being an artificial construct, the dateline is actually exists within the laws of physics and he actually arrives in LA before he left Australia.
Or something. I can’t really explain this stuff in a way that makes sense, since I have such a tenuous grasp on the Lost world’s physics as is.
It’s pretty clear at this point that the island has healing properties, so maybe it makes the woman’s immune system so strong that it treats the baby as a foreign object/infection and thus the babies can’t survive the pregnancy?
It’s pretty clear at this point that the island has healing properties, so maybe it makes the woman’s immune system so strong that it treats the baby as a foreign object/infection and thus the babies can’t survive the pregnancy?
Then why do the women die as well?
Good point.
Maybe once your immune system is revved up, and defeated the baby threat, it may put 2 and 2 together and start attacking your own tissue, since it’s 50% related to the baby’s tissue.
Or maybe it’s not the women’s immune system fighting the baby, but the baby grows stronger and faster than it should, using more resources, sapping the woman’s ability to successfully carry the baby to term.
I just think they’re more likely to tie the baby issue into the island’s healing properties than anything else.
jabroni
3427
What was the deal with Desmond’s use of the word “brother” in this episode? I thought he learned that at… well, wherever it was, that monk thing? But, anyway, that was after 1996, right? And I noticed (although I’m not completely sure) he used “pal” in the past and “brother” in the present. I don’t quite get what that means. If he was his 1996 self, he wouldn’t use “brother” at all because he hadn’t picked it up yet…
I guess it just ties in to it only being his consciousness that is jumping around, and there’s like some underlying stuff that has still aged the 8 years. Or something. Does that mean he can get his “physical” memory back since is presumably still sitting there in his 2004 brain?
Anyway, I loved the episode itself, although the whole “hurry up and call your girlfriend or your brain will explode” thing was kinda goofy. Faraday’s note to self at the end kind of confused me, as well (why would you want your constant to be a flaky guy who’s unstuck in time?), but that he knew he’d run into Desmond sometime in his future makes it make sense to me.
nabeel
3428
Desmond joined the monastery before he was dismissed and then joined the Army. He met Penny when he left the monastery, remember?
I think he did get his memory back in his 2004 brain. They didn’t come right out and say for sure, but after he talked to Penny and he was talking with Sayid it seemed like talking to Penny had set things right and now he remembered Sayid and presumably everything else between 1996 and 2004.
I wish they would’ve made that more clear. If it was the case, why keep us waiting a week or more for confirmation?
What was unclear about it?
I thought it was implied that he had sync’d up his two experiences, but I wasn’t sure about it. His “I’m perfect,” could’ve just been him thinking he’s going to live, not that he remembers everything.
nabeel
3433
Agreed, it was ambiguous.
Crater
3434
Just saw the episode last night, and I have to add to the chorus that it was wonderful. Although I was fully expecting the BurlyMenz to come in and tear Desmond away from the phone instead of it running out of charge.
It reminded a lot of the final ST:TNG episode, with Picard living in different time periods. I just hope Desmond doesn’t have to initiate some sort of inverted tachyon pulse in the past and present.
I don’t know, the assured way he addressed Sayid as Sayid seemed to be a clear sign that he now remembered Sayid. Certainly as clear as anything else we’ve ever seen in Lost.
Jazar
3436
That’s what I got as well.
I thought it was completely clear as well given the fact that blood didn’t keep pouring out of Desmond’s nose and, you know… he didn’t die a horrible death like the other guy.
Just to confirm: this was an awesome, awesome episode.
jabroni
3438
Well, no, I don’t remember, but clearly you do and I will take your word for it. I just thought it was weird he wasn’t using “brother” in the past, although I could just be remembering that wrong, too.
In “Flashes Before Your Eyes”, the Desmond episode from last season, he meets Penny on the day he left the monkery or whatever it’s called. On the phone in this week’s episode she says something like “You left me and joined the army”, so the army was after Penny and Penny was after the monks. Probably he didn’t call people in the army brother because the army has their own words you’re supposed to use. Either that or brother is a code word and every 108 times he says it an island explodes.
If I was gonna be nitpicky about last week’s super awesome show (great job?) I would have asked how the other time traveling guy could remember the past in the future. Like he said stuff to Desmond about how they were getting calls from Penny. Except if he was like Desmond he would have thought it was x years ago and would not have remembered getting calls to the boat from Penny.
But who gives a shit, it was a great episode.
Faraday stated that it effects everyone differently, it’s unpredictable, etc. They can just wave a wand and say that instead of the Minkowski we saw being past Minkowski jumping to the future, it was future Minkowski jumping to the past. Hence, he was aware of the stuff that had transpired on the boat.
But who gives a shit, it was a great episode.
Amen.
