jabroni
3581
I realize that, what I’m saying Michael taking another identity would explain the lack of Oceanic Six! fanfare at his funeral.
Okay, help me out here. Michael had time to return to New York, alienate himself from his son, have - and recover from - a near-fatal car accident and then get on a boat in a matter of mere weeks? Anyone remember about where we were in the Lost timeline when Michael steamed off in that little boat?
And I didn’t expect the clumsy exposition of Widmore placing the fake plane at the bottom of the ocean quite so soon.
And did we know Tom was gay?
We didn’t know Tom was gay, but that was a great fucking touch, because he set off a few of my friends’ gaydar.
As for Michael, he left at the end of season 2, and obviously the boat makes it to the island by the very end of season 3. That’s about 30 to 60 days, give or take. I’m sure Lostpedia or some other source has a more accurate timeline.
I was trying to remember some previous speculation about Tom and then finally recalled that he had told Kate “you’re not my type” last season. I remember a lot of chatter about that on the Television Without Pity boards.
Scrax
3585
That totally made my night.
We should continue to talk about his sexuality for the next 3 pages as that was clearly the highlight of the night.
Actually yeah we kind of new that from back in Season 3 when he said “you’re not my type” line to Kate I believe.
Also we’re not really sure how much Michael is hurt, probably not that much, I don’t think the nurse fully explained but maybe I just forgot that part.
But yeah I can see where people previously thought that the 8th episode and hence the cliffhanger would be kinda lame, and it was. I was expecting a bit more and it just ended. Damn they killed D’lenn though…
— Alan
As soon as Ben sent them to the temple, I was like “Ah… time for some cast culling, huh?”
Can’t say I expected Danielle and Carl to just be killed right off in the same episode though.
jeffd
3588
Didn’t someone in a previous episode blame Ben for putting the plane at the bottom of the ocean?
I don’t think we can take it for granted at all that it was really Widmore.
The boat captain claimed it was Ben who faked the crash so yeah technically either party may be lying, but I get the sense from the overall direction of the show that Ben is the one who is telling (more of) the truth and Widmore really is the one who faked it.
So did Ben set a trap for Rousseau and Carl, or was it somebody else? Seems like Ben was maybe telling a little lie there about not killing innocent people.
rjcc
3591
best Lost ever. (we caught a bit of plumber’s crack from naomi as she went through the door on the boat)
At this point, we can’t be sure if it was Others or Boat Others who shot at Rousseau and Carl. Needless to say, I’m bummed that they axed Rousseau. She was so frickin’ awesome.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who enjoyed that.
Pretty sure it was the Others; Carl is now an outcast and definitely expendable, and Rousseau is an unknown. If that was the Others’ final place of retreat, they’d guard it fairly zealously, and they know their initial attack force was already wiped out.
— Alan
Yeah, I agree it has to be Ben’s people who killed Carl and Danielle. They wouldn’t have any problems killing either of them, since Carl was a traitor and Danielle has killed Ben’s people in the past. The only question is why would Ben send them out there? He’s too crafty for the real reason to be anything to do with his “daughter’s” safety, so there must be an alterior motive. He’s playing her somehow.
Tom’s outing was a shock to me. I thought we’d seen him show serious feelings for that woman who got shot on the sub (the chick from Deadwood)? Wasn’t he all ticked off after she died, when he nearly beat Sawyer to death? Whatever, it’s not really that important, just a seeming inconsistancy.
Michael’s story did seem more than a bit contrived. How long did it take him and Walt to get back to New Yorkfrom the time we saw them putt away on the slow boat? It’s only been like 60 days tops on the island, and didn’t Daniel say time passes slower on the island anyway, so that would make it even less on the outside. Somehow in that short time Micheal is supposed to have been rescued in the Pacific, flown back to the US, had a falling out with his son and mom, tried to kill himself and failed, ran into Tom, flown to Fiji to meet up with the ship, then sailed for a few days to the place where he sabotaged the freighter, then sat there a few more days while all the recent events have happened. That’s a LOT of stuff to fit into 60 or less days.
sluggo
3595
The killing totally seemed like Ben’s work to me. There was a moment earlier where Ben looked at Carl with that same disapproving I’m-going-to-send-you-to-your-death look he gave Goodwin in the Juliet episode, and I knew Carl was finished. To me, at least, it seemed fairly telegraphed.
Again the Tom outing is not inconsistent at all. He’s just angry that he died. Maybe he’s bi. But as we said, they totally hinted at it with the “you’re not my type” line to Kate.
— Alan
It’s actually even less than that. According to Lostpedia, Michael and Walt left the island on day 68. The main story is at day 98-99. So Michael had been gone for 30 days.
The falling out with Walt could have happened on the way home and the situation with his mom is just a consequence of that. He probably flies to Fiji the day after he meets Tom, so the real stretch is that he becomes suicidal, gets in the crash and then has to recover all in about two weeks’ time.
Eh, whatever. I’m alright suspending disbelief for stuff like that. I’m not alright waiting a month for another episode :(
He was in pretty good shape when we woke up. I’m assuming the Island had a part of that.
Podunk
3600
Yeah, that was my assumption as well.
