While I think Jin is probably alive, this reasoning doesn’t hold up on Lost.

We’ve already seen them kill off two named characters at once (Danielle/Carl, Libby/Ana Lucia), and since Michael’s story was really at a close anyways, his death was almost a non-event.

Frankly, I was amazed they didn’t take the helicopter fall as an opportunity to make us wonder if Sawyer was alive.

Dammit. Well, anyway, I was convinced enough that he’s dead that now I’m convinced he’s not.

I guess we get Jedi-Ghost Michael now as well.

Not that I know for sure, or anything. I’m just very cynical of shows that make a point of something without providing evidence. I tend to believe the opposite. Which could be used against me, as Lost did pretty well in the first and second seasons.

Not that I know for sure, or anything. I’m just very cynical of shows that make a point of something without providing evidence. I tend to believe the opposite. Which could be used against me, as Lost did pretty well in the first and second seasons.

So, exactly which action did Micheal do that the island was not letting him die so he could do it? Letting the guys get back to the copter? Letting Jin die with him? Something more obscure?

BTW, just started Mass Effect PC, could not resist giving Shepard, the first name Jack…

This is a good question and it points to one of the reasons I’m pretty meh on Lost again despite much of this past season being good. The idea that the island itself has some kind of motivations attached to it is getting silly to begin with, when you add to that the fact that it has some kind of magical powers that extend all over the world that can alter events and yet it somehow needs the help of random people to act as its instrument in mundane matters, things begin to get all sorts of quasi-religiously loopy (in a bad way, IMO). If the island can stop Michael from killing himself, why couldn’t it just make the C4 not blow up without help? How did that whole sequence even help anyway if the end result is all this bad stuff for the island? etc, etc.

The plot of the show is so far off the rails of having any consistent rules that I just find it hard to care about things anymore. They spent a LOT of time teasing with the “big reveal” of the season finale… Locke’s in the casket! But… who cares that it is Locke? The fact that he’s in the casket has no real meaning because when they bring him back to the island he’ll probably reanimate… or not. maybe he’ll be a ghost… who talks for Jabob… whoever the fuck that is… but people sometimes see him… and that means…what? Who knows. This sure is all very mysterious by way of making no sense!

With the end closer to the beginning, I’ll keep watching in hopes that they really wow me and tie the majority of this crap together (and I just mean stuff from the last season, like constants, time shift, etc, I won’t even mind if they just drop some of the older stuff), but I really don’t expect it to happen at this point.

Heh heh… it’s either that or Derek…

I really don’t expect them to be able to tie up any of the plot satisfactorily, and I haven’t since season 2. I’ve been burned too many times by elaborate setups like these.

I watch Lost now because I like the characters and enjoy their interaction. The island, as far as I’m concerned, is an unwieldy MacGuffin, and I prefer it remains that way. Any attempt to make sense of it all will distract from the elements which I do enjoy - so I’d honestly prefer, at this point, that they keep the whole thing a mystery and focus on the drama. That’s the part that works.

I’m starting to get an eerie Macross Zero protoculture island vibe from this show after the finale. To summarize the Macross Zero lore:

  1. Ancient ship crashes next to an island, falls to the bottom of the sea.
  2. Humanity’s true evolution begins as descendants of the aliens cross-breed with the humans. Some pure-blood descendants remain, like some characters in Macross Zero (the Lost equivalent of Richard, The Others?) that have special abilities (like Richard’s agelessness) and have other non-human characteristics.
  3. The island in Macross Zero also has mystical properties, most likely due to proximity to the crashed alien ship.

My theory, being that they claim nothing in Lost is supernatural, is (sadly) aliens and an ancient civilization. Check out the runes in the Cold Room where Ben moves the island – they look pretty alien to me, and they made a point to illustrate that the Cold Room is ancient by showing its architecture and carvings. Also, a device that can teleport an entire island through time and space is pretty damn technologically advanced for having been around forever, and if that blinding light (which looked like it came from some kind of power source) isn’t caused by some piece of advanced technology, I’d be highly surprised. Oh, and why would the island have a “plan”? An AI? Perhaps that’s what Jacob is? I’m so sorry, I know this sounds schlocky. But if we’re ruling out supernatural, what the hell else can explain all this? The smoke monsters would have to be some kind of defense mechanism for the “ship” or something. God, I dunno.

I really hope it isn’t ridiculous as I’m theorizing, but my guess is that the island is a ship. An ancient and possibly alien one at that – although I wouldn’t rule out a terrestrial-based ancient advanced civilization; we don’t need aliens to have an isolated part of the human race that evolved differently than us. Also, I’d really like to see how many toes Richard has.

Maybe it’s Atlantis.

Dun, Dun Dun!

Actually Scry, that’s pretty much the same theory I’ve been operating under for more or less the last two seasons. First it was the “ageless Richard” thing and the mysterious island powers that made me thing “lost civilization with alien tech”, then the time travel stuff kind of cemented the idea in my head.

It might not play out as simple as that, but I’m willing to bet your summary comes pretty close to the basic synopsis.

I don’t think Richard is ageless… I think he uses the island to go back and forth in time.

I think the Richard-as-Highlander makes slightly more sense than Richard-as-time-traveller for a couple of reasons, but mostly because the scene where he visits Locke as a boy makes more sense if he ageless.

WAAALT! (video)

Ok, I’m finally caught up. Can someone explain to me how they managed to jam Locke into a four-foot-long coffin?

Well, we still don’t know anything about what happened back on the island after the Six left, so who knows? Maybe Locke had his legs cut off.

ComicCon '08 video.

-Julian

Lost Season 5 promo

awesome. The island stuff looks interesting