4221

Kinda not a big fan of how mystical the whole return was, but OTOH I’m glad they didn’t drag it out any longer.

4222

I don’t see it being that mystical honestly, depending on how you look at it.

As for the crash… I don’t think there was one. They flew through a certain radius of where the island was, there was a time bubble-thingee like everyone else, and they “disappeared” from the plane and onto the island… and stuck in the past.

— Alan

4223

I agree with you about the plane not really being a crash, they made a point of verbally wondering where the plane was and showing a flash and having nobody remember and such, so I can accept that once I’ve already accepted the flashing through time stuff… but the setup to get there still came off as being very mystical… all of the various coincidences that brought everyone back together, including Frank, etc.

I’m kind of curious to see what it means that Jin was driving around in the VW bus. Assuming they are in a point in time between the Dharma purge and when they found the bus in a past season of Lost it would seem unlikely that the ‘Roger Workman’ they found in the bus then was the original guy. I guess it is possible there is more than one bus.

4224

I’m getting kind of tired of one of the main characters asking a good question (“Hey Mrs. Faraday, before we help you could you tell us who you are and what you do?”), me thinking that’s a good question, the person responding with a completely unrelated remark that doesn’t even try to address the question (“Let me tell you about the Apostle Thomas.”), and then everyone carrying on like nobody asked a question that they really wanted to have answered.

4225

Now what happened to Aaron, I’d like to know. Did Kate give him to his grandmother, i.e. Claire’s mother? Speaking of which, they never did make it clear what happened to Claire. Of course she did appear in the company of Jack’s father, a dead man, so…

4226

So did Locke… before he died.

4227

Believe it or not, that technique works in real life too, with most people. Plus when my brother was the head of the Solar Car team at his University, he had this rule about answering reporter’s questions: Ignore the reporter’s question, and just answer the question you want to answer, regardless of what they actually asked. It worked great every time. Especially when you start with something like “Let me tell you about the Apostle Thomas”. When you start telling a story, people assume it will lead back to the topic at hand, and you can use that assumption to successfully change the topic.

4228

I’m still waiting for Mrs. Faraday to produce the proof that Jin is alive that Sun wanted. At least that’s what I THOUGHT Sun wanted in last week’s episode. So she goes to the church, Mrs. Faraday explains the super-secret island finding room, and Sun goes home… it’s pretty irritating to have a thread like that dropped for no reason (but sadly, not that surprising where Lost is concerned).

4229

I thought Jin’s ring was the proof.

4230

Man, I thought that was the worst episode of the season.

4231

Wasn’t there some Ajira wreckage on the beach during one of the time jumps the left-behinds made? Seems to me the plane crashed.

And there’s a lot of speculation on the lostpedia forums that Ben looks so beat up because he killed or attempted to kill Penny. Is there any evidence of that? (I would ask them, but the lostpedia forums are kinda dumb, and I don’t want to set up another account.)

4232

Mrs. Faraday never had the proof. Ben had it all along - the ring. He just strung Sun along to get her to see Mrs. Faraday.

I’m assuming that we’re going to get all the answers to Hurley, Ben, Sayid, Kate & Sun’s arrival on the airplane in another episode.

As for the arrival on the island, that was very odd. If they time traveled, then the plane would be with them since they were in it (direct contact). If the plane just dissapeared, that’d be one hell of a fall.

4233

He left to go “keep a promise to an old friend” and the only promise we’ve seen him make that fits the circumstances is his promise to kill the living holy hell out of Penny Widmore, so I’m pretty sure that’s the conclusion the viewer is supposed to reach.

The last we saw Claire, she was walking off into the jungle for no apparent reason. Then she made a guest appearance in the cabin and nothing since. I don’t think she’s a “full” cast member this season, but I want to say she’s supposed to come back next season. Whether she’s dead or not (in the initial rocket attack, in the jungle, or otherwise) seems like it’s supposed to be up in the air for now.

The condition of the bus and the uniform Jin is wearing would imply that they’ve been dislocated in time to when the Dharma Initiative was working on the island, which would also go a ways toward explaining what was up with Daniel in the Frozen Donkey Wheel Drilling Scenario at the beginning of the season.

Don’t you think that was just a LITTLE on the nose? I mean, it can’t be that useful of a product placement, since the title is in Spanish and most viewers cannot be assed to look up the translation, but still, I had to kind of laugh a little at that. Maybe it means he’ll start writing comics again in the future. I’m kind of shocked that the other producers let him get away with that - I guess Damon didn’t want to wave Wolverine vs. Hulk around on screen until he actually finished the thing.

4234

I agree that their “flashing” off of the plane and onto the island is most likely what happened, but it’s super lame, especially given that the show has already established that anything they’re touching during a flash will come with them. They should have at least brought the plane in that case, if not the other passengers (which would really suck for them).

4235

I gotta think that the other passangers will be there with them. They showed that one guy who defeintely does not look like a simple red shirt extra.

4236

I agree. It was overly gimmicky and featured an uncharacteristically clumsy, sloppy narrative. Things which are usually well hidden by the show’s normally excellent storytelling (such as creating a whole bunch of new mysteries to pad out episodes) seemed forced.

4237

Great episode, though it seems like they rushed to get the folks back on the island. I think I saw Hurley’s numbers on the flight’s coordinates (or was it the island’s location) Faraday’s mom showed the group. Will have to watch again to confirm.

4238

My favourite part of last night’s episode was how nobody even bothers to ask Ben why he’s beat to shit again.

4239

Because the answer would’ve likely been, ‘why doesn’t matter - only that I’m beat to shit’, or ‘because that is what happened’. Or ‘have faith’.

I did really like ‘my mother taught me how’. Smartass Ben is the best Ben.

4240

Two thoughts:

  1. Didn’t Ben tell Locke at the end of last season that he (Ben) could never return to the island once he leaves? Or am I misremembering that? Perhaps Ben is acting as Aaron’s proxy, and as such can now return?

  2. Prediction: Hurley’s guitar case is packed with snacks.