Lost

[Roy_Ziegler]

They certainly won’t be lonely.

[Brian_Seiler]

Something people seem to be forgetting, the station where they had to enter the numbers every 108 minutes blew up long before the island started jumping through time. The island started jumping when Ben turned the switch in the Orchid station, not before. Also after the station blew up there was never another expulsion of energy that happened like when they missed the timer.

I get the feeling the hatch with the timer is never going to be explained, along with the smoke creature.

Almost definitely not. By labeling Via Domus non-canon, the producers reserved their rights to go back and brush up later, but you find out what’s behind the concrete wall causing all the magnetic anomalies in the video game. I don’t know why they’d go back and invalidate that at this point. They have more than enough work cut out for them just wrapping up the threads they don’t have taken care of in any form.

[Houngan]

Something people seem to be forgetting, the station where they had to enter the numbers every 108 minutes blew up long before the island started jumping through time. The island started jumping when Ben turned the switch in the Orchid station, not before. Also after the station blew up there was never another expulsion of energy that happened like when they missed the timer.

I get the feeling the hatch with the timer is never going to be explained, along with the smoke creature.

But wasn’t it a jump when they didn’t enter the numbers? They didn’t specifically show it to be, but the flash of light, the noise, etc. match up. I had the impression that the “force field” dropped, the island jumped, Penny found it, then Ben kicked it into overdrive with the wheel.

H.

[Brian_Seiler]

Except that by that reasoning, the Island would have to have already been jumping when Desmond screwed up punching in the numbers and crashed their plane a couple of months earlier. I don’t really think that the electromagnetic phenomenon in the hatch and the time jumping phenomenon (apparently powered by “strange matter,” though I’m guessing that they picked that term because it’s vague enough that they can get away with making it whatever the hell they please) are necessarily the same thing, though they might be related.

[Houngan]

That’s fine, because the island could have been jumping slightly and they wouldn’t notice. Perhaps now that the energy levels are up from what Ben did, it’s jumping much farther in time and space.

Or maybe we just had to wait for Penny to follow the same path of detection that the DI followed. But if not a time-jump, then what were the two events when the numbers weren’t pushed? The crumpling station indicates it had to be the EM anomaly, which is also to blame for the time jumps. Or like you say, closely related.

H.

[zengonzo]

Or Faith!

'Cause Saint Thomas.

[nabeel]

… We’re not going to Guam, are we?

[John_Sansker]

“It’s a unique electromagnetic something or other, tied to similar somethings or others around the world.”

Yeah. Nice.

It is unique in the fact that the island is the “end” point for all the other “similar” somethings around the world.

This crap is loosely based on the Bermuda Triangle.
Which is not in fact a triangle but rather oval shaped, the other term used is “Vile Vortex”.
There are other “Vile Vortices” scattered equidistantly around the planet.
One is in the pacific near Japan, known locally as the Devil’s Triangle. (though again it isn’t actually triangle shaped.
Another one, oddly enough, is in North America, situated on Lake Michigan.
(google it, dozens if not hundreds of planes, ships, ect, have disappeared without a trace in sight of Chicago)

What the Lost writers have done, is taken this theory of the electromagnetic anomalies that are separated by hundreds if not thousands of miles and tied them all together.
This explains how Ecko’s brother took off in a plane from the west? coast of Africa and wound up somewhere in the Pacific.
So, you go into this “window” as Faraday’s mother put it, and you wind up on the island. (which was in a stable location before Ben turned the wheel, now, it’s become unstuck in time and is skipping about, though, since Locke “fixed” the wheel, the island [i]should[i/] be fixed now too? unless you need all the “parts” back in their proper places for it to be completely and truly “fixed”
the “parts” being the people who left)

[John_Sansker]

So, what are the odd that Lapidus is on the island now too?

This makes the season 1 episode 1 “smoke monster-killing-the-pilot” make a lot more sense now.

Smoke MonsterFlies up to the cockpit, “Hiya Frank,…hey waitaminute, you’re not Frank, DIE”

[Houngan]

It is unique in the fact that the island is the “end” point for all the other “similar” somethings around the world.

This crap is loosely based on the Bermuda Triangle.
Which is not in fact a triangle but rather oval shaped, the other term used is “Vile Vortex”.
There are other “Vile Vortices” scattered equidistantly around the planet.
One is in the pacific near Japan, known locally as the Devil’s Triangle. (though again it isn’t actually triangle shaped.
Another one, oddly enough, is in North America, situated on Lake Michigan.
(google it, dozens if not hundreds of planes, ships, ect, have disappeared without a trace in sight of Chicago)

What the Lost writers have done, is taken this theory of the electromagnetic anomalies that are separated by hundreds if not thousands of miles and tied them all together.
This explains how Ecko’s brother took off in a plane from the west? coast of Africa and wound up somewhere in the Pacific.
So, you go into this “window” as Faraday’s mother put it, and you wind up on the island. (which was in a stable location before Ben turned the wheel, now, it’s become unstuck in time and is skipping about, though, since Locke “fixed” the wheel, the island [i]should[i/] be fixed now too? unless you need all the “parts” back in their proper places for it to be completely and truly “fixed”
the “parts” being the people who left)

Do me a favor. Say “I do not believe in the Bermuda Triangle because fewer accidents happen there than other places.”

H.

[Coca_Cola_Zero]

So, what are the odd that Lapidus is on the island now too?

I think he’s going to be on the island for sure, the only question is whether he’s in the past with the 815 survivors/Daniel/Miles or in the present with the new ‘316’ survivors.

[Xemu]

Awesome episodes. Boo on all you haters. I loved seeing all the callbacks to the original crash. This season has been one of the best of the series I think (which amazes me after a low point in Season 3).

The smartass dialogue from a whole bunch of characters on the plane was just icing on the cake.

[bloo]

So, what are the odd that Lapidus is on the island now too?

This makes the season 1 episode 1 “smoke monster-killing-the-pilot” make a lot more sense now.

Smoke MonsterFlies up to the cockpit, “Hiya Frank,…hey waitaminute, you’re not Frank, DIE”

Uh oh. Didn’ Frank say on more than one occasion that the corpse of the pilot in the footage show of the fake ‘recovered’ Flight 815 should have been him?

I am beginning to fear the Fahey will not make it to the end this show.

[John_Sansker]

Uh oh. Didn’ Frank say on more than one occasion that the corpse of the pilot in the footage show of the fake ‘recovered’ Flight 815 should have been him?

I am beginning to fear the Fahey will not make it to the end this show.

Yes, he was supposed to have been the pilot of Oceanic 815, but wasn’t for some reason.
The guy that took his place was a good friend of his and he knew it wasn’t his friend by the wedding ring the corpse was wearing or something like that.

[nabeel]

I loved seeing all the callbacks to the original crash.

I really love how they started the episode, directly referencing the start of the whole series.

[Jerry_Sizzler]

Something people seem to be forgetting, the station where they had to enter the numbers every 108 minutes blew up long before the island started jumping through time.

I thought that that was the point at which Desmond became unstuck in time.

[Brian_Seiler]

I thought that that was the point at which Desmond became unstuck in time.

Yes, but that one was temporary and apparently only a one-way thing. We saw an episode where he flashed back to his history in the military and wanting to marry Penny and getting told off by Eloise and sent to The Island. He didn’t jump back and forth in that episode, though I think maybe our perspective as the audience did. The Constant had him becoming dislodged when he crossed the “bubble” line on the way to the freighter.

[JonRowe]

I just started watching because of the ABC streaming, I am on episode 6 of season 1 now…

I got a long way to go.

[Alan_Dunkin]

There goes my “they didn’t crash” theory.

You should stay away from this thread Jon, it’s pretty spoilerish.

— Alan

[cheapfilms]

I’m really poor with my classical art knowledge but was the moment when Locke stood on the desk with his right hand pointing out, and Ben sat at his feet an allusion to something ?