bloo
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Richard has indestructible clothes. Or a cave with many copies of the stuff he always wears.
I liked Sawyer referencing Richard having mascara. Is that somehow a natural Bat-Manuel look, did Nestor Carbonell get mascara tattoos or does Richard Alpert just like that look?
“Great, let’s go back to the beach! And then when that gets boring, we can go back to the Orchid station! Those are the only two plans you people ever have!”
God bless Miles.
I think the love triangle is now a quadrilateral.
Another great episode. This is definitely the best the show has been since season one.
The only people in the 70’s from the Ajira plane are Jack, Kate, Hurley and according to next weeks previews, Sayid. Locke and company are present day.
Yeah, I was glad to get the time issue cleared up. And I loved Sawyer’s remark about Richard’s eyeliner. That was one of a couple of shout-outs to the fans who had mentioned that. The other was Miles bitching that they do nothing but hike between the beach and the Orchid.
Sun is bound to be out there somewhere, also in the 70s. She was on the plane, and there’s no reason (like death, in Locke’s case) for her to be in a different time period than the rest of the O6.
I think that was the first time he was far more apt than annoying for me. I really dug it.
Also Sawyer’s eyeliner comment. They were really going for the self-aware humor.
Enjoying our heroes mixing in with the Dharma Initiative, and the continued play of them having the upper hand on the supposed secret societies.
Only terrified about the potential for more Sawyer-Kate bullshit …
What about Sayid, though? He’s with Locke and has no compelling reason to have been separated from the rest of the O6.
Overall it was a good episode, lots of smile and nod moments and I dig the whole blast to the past thing. But there are some issues that don’t make sense in the context of LOST.
I assume that 1974-1977 is Dharma before the advent of Dr. Marvin Candle and his wacky psuedo-science experiments, as we see neither him nor any of the weirdness we’ve come to expect from Dharma. Obviously it was pre-Ben and his dad coming to the camp, as we saw neither of them and there is a “truce” in place with Richard and his guys. Toss on the successfull birth of a baby and it all points to Dr. Candle and his crew coming along later and totally screwing something up that not only provokes Richard but puts the baby ban in place as well. All that shit must happen post-LOSTies, and yet we saw Daniel in an earlier episode still in Dharma gear when Candle and crew were building the Orchid, which makes me wonder how long the LOSTies are going to be stuck in the past. This in turn presents all sorts of mind-bending time travel conundrums like if Richard met Sawyer in the past shouldn’t he remember him in the present, and other fun stuff.
Also, an entire hour devoted to Dharma time and we learned nothing about the mystery of what the hell they’re on the island for in the first place?! Bah!!
Juliet talks of leaving the island, and yet MILES hangs around for 3 years?! WTF? Miles character has shown no loyalty whatsoever to anyone or anything except money. You don’t think that given a free ticket off the island to 1974, knowing what the future holds, he wouldn’t jump at the chance to make all the right sports bets, stock market moves and whatever else to make himself filthy rich 10 years before he’s even born? Must be another time conundrum thing they conveniently glossed over. He did have the line of the night with his gripe about the beach and the Orchid though.
Oh, and full rear giant statue shot, AWESOME!
ARG between seasons 2 and 3 indicated that they were trying to change the coefficients of the Valenzetti Equation to make us all not die in whenever that was supposed to happen. The producers have reserved the right to give that the middle finger, I think, but as far as I know, that’s their current canonical purpose.
Chuck
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Didn’t see this mentioned earlier in this forum, but here’s something I caught.
Okay, going back to Locke’s episode, did anyone catch the name of the
hotel Locke ended up in? Looks like an anagram to me. The sign on the building read: WESTeRn FIELD HOTel, with the lower case letters representing the burned out letters of the sign.
Here’s what I came up with: It’s The Flower.
Erich
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That fits with Sawyer’s new fake name. Another reference to the Orchid?
I suspect every woman (and many men) who watched that episode last night fell irrevocably in love with Sawyer, if they hadn’t already.
Here’s what I dug: Sawyer spun an elaborate lie for Horace, because he knew he could get away with it. When he sat down with Richard, though, Sawyer explained everything EXACTLY as it happened, because he knew he couldn’t get away with lies. Indeed, he knew that unsettling Richard with the truth was the best way out of that situation. Awesome. And how refreshing was it to have a character actually explain something in full detail? No one on Lost ever explains anything.
At least from the previews for next week, it appears as if Sayid is back in the 70s with the rest of them.
Locke has Frank and the woman from Rome that was carting Sayid around, right? Well, at least he has a “woman”…I don’t think we know if the woman that took the boat with Frank is Sun or not.
Whoops, I misread a post upthread and thought that it said Sayid was with Locke in next week’s previews. Disregard that, I suck cocks, etc.
bloo
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Yet.
But then there is the Dharma video shown at Comic-con '08, in which he sends a message to the future with what sounds like Daniel off camera.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo6Q7gzUjI8
He mentions he was brought to the island ‘years ago’ and that his current time is 30 years earlier, so 1977 I think?
This in turn presents all sorts of mind-bending time travel conundrums like if Richard met Sawyer in the past shouldn’t he remember him in the present, and other fun stuff.
Sawyer didn’t go into the camp with Daniel, Miles and Charlotte.
Oh, and full rear giant statue shot, AWESOME!
Yeah. Looked like an Egyptian anthropomorphic one, perhaps a cat or dog/jackyl, which would explain 4 toes, i.e., not a statue of a human.
Sayid is back in the 70s. Locke, Ben, Sun, Cesar,the new Marshall and the Fahey all appear to be in present time.
Do we know who Horace’s son is?
I don’t know, but am I the only one who thinks Miles will be Marvin Candle’s son? They’ve already made a point of showing he has one.
The general thought seems to be that it’s a statue of Anubis, which would fit in well with the island’s power to accept or deny eternal life to those that die.
