Lost

[WhollySchmidt]

I don’t know, but am I the only one who thinks Miles will be Marvin Candle’s son? They’ve already made a point of showing he has one.

That was mentioned somewhere earlier in this thread, you’re not alone.

[Houngan]

Do we know who Horace’s son is?

Ben. At least, I’m saying Ben, because Ben is everything. Ben will show up back in the 70s, I have no doubt. You may protest that Ben wasn’t on the plane, but Ben doesn’t need the anomaly to time travel. He just gets Time alone, makes it start questioning its motives, then casually suggests it shoot him back to the 70s. A bit later Time feels used.

Ben’s great, because he’s like the Chuck Norris of influence. Plus he’s not a bad little Chuck Norris naturale, with a baton and a boatload of body parts. Ben is all things.

H.

[Mike_Cathcart]

Yeah but we already know Ben’s dad is Roger Work Man, who shows up at some point to do some workmanning for Horace.

[bloo]

Ben. At least, I’m saying Ben, because Ben is everything.

Only if he goes back in time, changes his appearance, impregnates his mother and raises himself.

Horace and Olivia were the people in the car that Ben’s dad Roger flagged down when Ben’s mom collapsed - though Horace had much shorter hair then.

Or maybe Horace secretly impregnated Ben’s mom with his own seed and then drove around waiting for her to collapse while giving birth, but I think that’s a stretch.

Anubis makes sense for the statue.

[Jazar]

I liked Sawyer referencing Richard having mascara. Is that somehow a natural Bat-Manuel look, did Nestor Carbonell get mascara tattoos or does Richard Alpert just like that look?

I don’t know but he also has that mascara look in The Dark Knight.

[Brian_Seiler]

I don’t know but he also has that mascara look in The Dark Knight.

He’s on record saying that he’s never worn mascara, though who knows if that’s a joke.

[Jerry_Sizzler]

Nestor Carbonell’s wiki page has this quote, but there’s no citation listed.

“When we first saw dailies of Nestor, we were, like, ‘Someone’s gotta talk to him about the eyeliner situation,’” Lindelof said. “And he does not wear any mascara, no eyeliner, nothing. He is completely 100 percent sans makeup. That’s the God’s honest truth.”

[Gremlinclr]

For now my working theory is that we just saw the birth of Jacob.

I can’t remember what episode but Locke dreamed about Horace in the jungle chopping wood to build a cabin. Later he found Horus’ body in the mass grave with a map and blueprints to Jacobs cabin.

And yes I’m aware Jacob existed before this time but I’m thinking Jacob himself or Jacobs mind is constantly traveling through time so he’s literally in all times on the island. That’s how Ben always seems to be a step ahead, he’s getting future info from Jacob.

[mystery]

For now my working theory is that we just saw the birth of Jacob.

That’s an interesting theory. It would coincide with “that’s when things really started to unravel for the Dharma people.”

If Jacob is the voice of the island, in a sense, the island would be actively working toward kicking the Dharma people off. If this is the latest incarnation of Jacob, I’m betting at some moment, the Others come in and take him away to be raised outside the compound, and this trashes the truce they have with the Dharma people.

[Houngan]

I can’t remember what episode but Locke dreamed about Horace in the jungle chopping wood to build a cabin. Later he found Horus’ body in the mass grave with a map and blueprints to Jacobs cabin.

Nice.

H.

[theborbes]

He did have the line of the night with his gripe about the beach and the Orchid though.

It was a good line, but I think the line of the night was the eyeliner joke

[Jerry_Sizzler]

If this is the latest incarnation of Jacob, I’m betting at some moment, the Others come in and take him away to be raised outside the compound, and this trashes the truce they have with the Dharma people.

That would also explain their fascination with kid-snatching once flight 815 shows up.

[Chuck]

Wasn’t Horris the one building the cabin? I think he left with his child ( Jacob) and hid out away from the DI guys, then was killed when he returned to the group during the Ben/Others attack. Jacob dies alone in the cabin, but his spirit lives on, like so many others that have been lost on the island, (the whispering voices).

[Hunty]

I can’t remember what episode but Locke dreamed about Horace in the jungle chopping wood to build a cabin. Later he found Horus’ body in the mass grave with a map and blueprints to Jacobs cabin…

Great episode. Lost has been on a huge upswing for me since the end of season three, and my girlfriend and I are loving it again now after having a pretty major downer on it for a while. I quote because when we saw the LaFleur jumpsuit, we both had some major deja vu. I’m sure we’ve seen it somewhere else - either in the mass grave, in the shudder van episode, or somewhere else. We might be wrong, and Lostpedia didn’t mention anything when I checked, but it’s been bugging me.

[SlainteMhath]

The general thought seems to be that it’s a statue of Anubis, which would fit in well with the island’s power to accept or deny eternal life to those that die.

Anubis yes, but when we finally see the reveal of the statues head it will obviously be…VINCENT!

[Lloyd_Heilbrunn]

I don’t know, but am I the only one who thinks Miles will be Marvin Candle’s son? They’ve already made a point of showing he has one.

Nah, Miles is Jin’s son. :)

[bloo]

I quote because when we saw the LaFleur jumpsuit, we both had some major deja vu. I’m sure we’ve seen it somewhere else - either in the mass grave, in the shudder van episode, or somewhere else. We might be wrong, and Lostpedia didn’t mention anything when I checked, but it’s been bugging me.

The suit (and body) in the van was Ben’s dad. But I think you’re right - we’ve seen the suit before.

Nice spot wrt “Horus”, Gremlinclr.,

[Mr_PeaCH]

Dammit; I was going to jump in here and make the Horace/Horus allusion vis-a-vis the statue being Egyptianesque.

OK, but how about this:

What was the significance of Locke’s jumping down the well in mid-flash; having the well disappear to the folks topside after that penultimate flash (owing to their timeline now being far, far earlier); THEN after what was the final flash (owing to Locke having ‘fixed’ the wheel of time down under the earth) the well is there but filled in? (This, we find out, is in the 70’s.) i.e. Who filled it in, when did they fill it, and why?

[Andrew_Mayer]

i.e. Who filled it in, when did they fill it, and why?

All’s well that ends well, I always say.

[zengonzo]

Kinda makes the serious mining operation seem curious, though.

Assuming the well didn’t mark the spot at that point (as I haven’t reconciled the various times), why not dig straight down once they had located it? Got to be easier than plowing sideways through the more dense stratum …