Time-like loop within the universe. The island and its reality somehow branches off from normal reality when Flight 815 crashes, and exists in a parallel mini-universe that is contained within and is also separate from the real universe. After young Ben dies, the island resurrects him (in an upcoming episode), and Ben goes ahead and kills the DI people, including the Oceanic 6, which closes the loop. The original plane crash, was indeed in the open ocean, no survivors, and the island itself, with everything and everyone who was ever on it, no longer exists; or rather, the island exists in its own pinched-off time-loop universe, and does not, never did and never will impinge on the ‘real’ universe.
Thus, none of the Lost story ever happened or will happen at all.
FUCK DONNIE DARKO WITH A BIG RUBBER DILDO
Does that also mean we never watched it?
WildElf
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I thought he said “everything short of genocide.”
Does this mean that Ben never had cancer? Just a re-occurrence of an old wound?
Jazar
4567
This thread will turn into a 114 page discussion on Desperate Housewives.
Killzig
4568
SPOILERS (Via Domus)
Reminds me of how the Lost video game ends. Everyone standing around the wreckage of Oceanic 815. Only this time the reporter chick Elliot got killed is somehow still alive.
Just got to watch this weeks episode last night. Holy shit.
I can’t wait to find out where this goes.
DT1
4570
You about got it. “A monster responsible for nothing short of genocide.”
DT1
4571
On the one hand I’m enjoying the show, but also it is annoying that early on in the show they refuted spaceships and time travel. I realize they may not have known where it was all going at the time but it does feel like a bit of a cheat.
Menzo
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The Oceanic 6 who get on that flight aren’t on the island in that time frame, though. They’re still kids who will (conceivably) still get on that plane in 2004 (or whenever). Killing the Oceanic 6 on the island won’t prevent that.
Stop trying to murder my favorite show!
WildElf
4574
I don’t see a cheat.
I don’t think we’ve shown anything on the show yet…
They’ve still done pretty good keeping it grounded. Although in retrospect, a show who’s main structure is around flash backs (and then flash forwards) time travel fits in very well, and seems almost inevitable.
DT1
4575
Perhaps a bait and switch is more appropriate. If you read a story about a girl with telekinesis, and you know that going into the beginning of the story, it’s not a surprise at the end of the story when she starts using it to solve her problems.
I guess my takeaway here is that anything that has been repudiated before may be showing up later in the story. Aliens, purgatory, snow globes or time loops are all in play potentially. At least it’s been entertaining and we know an ending is coming.
There are a couple of ways to look at the “no time travel” comment. It could be that he meant that there was no time travel involved in the first season, as in they did not travel through time as they crashed on the island.
I don’t know what he was talking about with the “nothing is flat out impossible” thing, though - that smoke monster is impossible, and so is rapid healing.
Reading between the lines from various interviews, it seems to me that for a good portion of Season 1 they didn’t know the answers. This was when JJ Abrams was involved and he seemed to subscribe the policy of “we don’t know the answer but it’s a neat idea so use it” (I think part of the reason that David Fury left the show was that he was frustrated that the producers didn’t know the answers to the questions they were asking). When Abrams went big time Hollywood and started making features, Cuse and Lindelof realized that they would be the ones holding the bag and buckled down and started connecting dots.
So I wouldn’t put much weight into what anyone said during the first season.
I’d extend that to at least the second, and probably the third.
Actually they were fairly honest in interviews during the first season. They said they knew how they wanted it to end but as long as the show was popular they were going to drag it out.
I just have to say: kudos to the writers on this show for having really complicated time travel story lines, and yet, doing it in such a way that it doesn’t feel complicated. With each episode, they’ve been able to present the show in a way that everyone can follow along, because they only present things to you a piece at a time. For example, focusing just on Locke’s story in one episode. Focusing just on Le Fleur’s group another episode. It’s all very well done.
