Yeah I figured she died in the explosion as well.
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Lostpedia seems to disagree.
Claire was asleep during the mercenaries’ attack on the Barracks. Her house was blown up but Sawyer discovered her, disoriented but very much alive. As she came to, she mistook Sawyer for Charlie. Sawyer carried her back to Ben’s house and brought her to safety after Hurley broke the barricade set up by Locke to let them in. After resting, she was with the others as they witnessed the Smoke Monster’s attack on the mercenaries, and she was shocked to witness it for the first time. As Ben instructed, she and everyone else escaped to the tree line. Once safe, Locke and Ben decided to visit Jacob, but Claire agreed with Sawyer when he decided to head back to the beach, and she left with Aaron. (“The Shape of Things to Come”)
Claire wakes up to see her father holding Aaron. (“Something Nice Back Home”)
Some time into their journey back to the beach, Claire told Sawyer that her head still hurt but that she’d stopped seeing things. Circumstances worsened when Miles found the corpses of Danielle and Karl, Claire was visibly disturbed by the sight and requested that they keep moving. As the trio stopped for a break, and Claire was feeding Aaron, Miles began staring at her mysteriously, and at this, Sawyer behaved protectively toward her issued a “restraining order” on Miles, which he reiterated several times. Miles continually offered to give Claire support in carrying Aaron, but she politely refused. Later on Frank stumbled upon Claire and the group. Warning them that Keamy and the mercenaries’ were heading their direction. The group hid behind a group of tree’s just in time. However when they arrived, Aaron let out a cry, to which Claire clutched Aaron very tightly to her, praying for him to be silent. Keamy noticed this, but eventually Frank distracted the team away, from Claire, Aaron, Miles and Sawyer, and Claire in relief kissed Aaron on the forehead. (“Something Nice Back Home”)
That night, Sawyer’s protectiveness backfired when Claire woke during the night and noticed Aaron’s absence. Sitting up in a panic, Claire saw her father holding him fondly and whispered, “Dad?”. She followed him into the jungle, according to Miles, who finally decided to “respect” Sawyer’s warnings. Sawyer instantly went off to find Claire, but found Aaron abandoned at the base of a tree nearby and shouted for Claire desperately but received no response as she was gone.
Unless, of course, it was all a big twist, and the Claire they’ve been interacting with since the explosion was, well, magic dead Claire.
My mistake. I might’ve missed out on some of the details while I was busy making awful faces at the television.
I remember the Jin thing, but I recalled Hurley walking out with Sawyer like they were all going to split. Did they decide they were going back to the beach?
Whatever the case, everyone’s motivations seemed wildly stupid (except for Jack and Kate in a bizarre inverse), and intended solely to get them into the positions they ought to be in for the next act.
I’m by far most disappointed that Sawyer’s Thoughtful General didn’t go anywhere in that time. Not that he doesn’t have the opportunity to use it still, but I suppose I was hoping something would come of it rather than characters just getting locked-up again.
When at a loss for direction, hit the beach!
No, I think they should go back to The Lotus.
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Or Claire could have died in the middle of the night when Christian came to see her. The fact that she abandoned her child doesn’t seem in character for her.
That would require an exceptional event shown off-screen - specifically, her dying. It’s not impossible, but it would be one helluva cheat for the writers to give her a heart attack or a brain aneurysm or an attack of the dropsy or whatever that conveniently happened while we weren’t looking so she could go be dead with her dead father that she didn’t like that much when both of them were alive.
I would actually expect her to be alive but given some Great and Sekrit Nolege by The Island at this point. She’s acting out of character, but I can’t think of a persuasive reason for Dead Claire to be any less concerned about her baby than Live Claire unless she received some sort of indoctrination similar to the Otherization procedure in The Temple, which she could get just as easily alive as dead.
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Okay, but she was in a house that exploded which they definately showed on screen. It wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to think her death didn’t happen immediately.
Also, she has appeared as an apparition to Kate asking her to not bring Aaron back to the island. The other characters who have appeared as apparitions to the living characters are also dead (Charlie, Christian, Lucia, Libby). But we’ll see…
Didn’t she completely lose her accent in the dream, though? Maybe that was the actress being bad at her job, I guess.
The Claire situation is confusing. They need to resolve that before the finale. If I have to listen to fans argue about it over the long break, I’ll be very annoyed.
The actress is herself Australian. I don’t recall the accent issue.
Haha! Good luck with that! You’ll just have to avoid the subject until it starts back up again.
The sense I got after last season is that it was completely left unclear as to whether or not Claire was dead or just missing.
The sense I got this season from Kate’s interaction with Claire’s mother is that Claire is alive. I mean, I understand that Claire could have been dead when Kate left the island and Kate had incomplete information just like we the audience did, but I just don’t think they’d have done that whole setup and motive for Kate to go back to the island and then resolve it by Kate finding out that, oops, Claire is dead… it just wouldn’t make much dramatic sense, IMO.
So for now I’m assuming Claire is alive and they’ll find her when they eventually get back to their own natural time.
I’m guessing we’ll get a Claire teaser in the final episode.
It did seem like Claire’s accent fell away in the dream, I remember thinking that (though she is Australian and the accent is natural I believe).
Okay this clip is on the website for tonight’s episode and if you don’t want to see any of it please skip, but I love it (involves Hurley):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M--T0hX1CuQ
— Alan
So no thoughts, even?
I didn’t feel like this episode was as rough as the last, but it also seemed as though less of significance happened.
Also sad to see that they won’t let the Kate-Sawyer love triangle bullshit die. I can’t think of a less tedious aspect of the show. At least Jack is out of it - but that should just make the whole thing easier. Guess Sawyer is dumb after all.
Also getting a little worn out on the Ben-Locke-Richard machinations - feel like they finally evolved the relationship into something else, and now it’s just back into that rut again. At least Locke seems a little wiser.
At least the next episode seems pretty promising.
Well, the episode was sort of typical for the show - the finale is up next, and their pre-finale episodes over the past few years have been less than thrilling. Mostly people deciding whether they want to go have a big disaster at the beach or The Orchid. I guess since I wasn’t expecting that much from this specific week I was okay, but it was mostly an hour about twenty odd people taking independent cab rides to a prize fight.
Yep, this was a setup show very typical of LOST season endings. Still, I like Locke’s new found total confidence and Richard’s growing lack thereof in both timelines. I’m not buying nerd-rage guy taking over Dharma though, I mean he got pretty much zero repect previously and suddenly everyones letting him call the shots? I look forward to his gruesome death hopefully in the next episode.
Nope. He doesn’t die unless they’re going to cheat with the timeline. Radzinsky was the guy who shot himself with Immelmen in The Swan before Desmond showed up. I don’t blame you for forgetting about him, though - for four years the only picture we had of him was a greasy smear on the ceiling.