Lost

[Jazar]

Pretty sure the producers also said there wouldn’t be time travel or anything super natural, yet here we are.

I think we can dismiss the “it’s all a dream” scenario. They just mentioned that last week:

Cuse: But what’s happened is, I think people have expectations that have grown from other shows, where that last moment is such a sting. Whether it’s all of a sudden you see a snow globe [as in “St. Elsewhere”] or you cut to black or somebody wakes up and it’s all been a dream. Whatever it is, it’s like that final twist negates or completely overshines everything that’s come before it.

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2010/01/lost-carlton-cuse-damon-lindelof-season-6-abc.html#

[Tyjenks]

Or previously dead Patrick Duffy steps out of the shower all bear-chested, dries off his hair and states it was all a dream.

[drewl]

I’ve enjoyed the show but the one thing I keep thinking is for all of the extroirdinary events they’ve been manipulating some very ordinary people, as in what’s so special about the passengers of 815 that they’ve been chosen to fulfill the islands destiny?

[WhollySchmidt]

Hurley, of course.

It’s too crazy to be anyone else’s…

Libby was in the psych ward too!

[Nawid_A]

I’ve enjoyed the show but the one thing I keep thinking is for all of the extroirdinary events they’ve been manipulating some very ordinary people, as in what’s so special about the passengers of 815 that they’ve been chosen to fulfill the islands destiny?

Sayed isn’t special?

[Hunty]

Ah, Sayid.

“Is there a radio transmitter on this island? Where is the radio transmitter? Did I mention I used to be a torturer, but I hate to talk about it? If I torture you will you give me the radio transmitter? Radio transmitter. Don’t make me torture you, I hate it! Can I torture you now? Radio transmitter.”

He’s a bit better now, of course.

[red_guy]

Yeah, he’s the ex-military professional hitman who forgot the old adage, “twice in the head, make sure he’s dead” when he realized his sole purpose on the island was to kill Ben.

The rest of them are experiencing severe daddy issues. Jacob (and/or not-Jacob) will fix them all, in this final season. This is why the show will end with Jack, Claire and their dad sitting around a campfire singing kumbayah.

[dtolman]

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Jacob (and/or not-Jacob) will fix them all, in this final season. This is why the show will end with Jack, Claire and their dad sitting around a campfire singing kumbayah.

Really? With all the death and mayhem in this show, I’m expecting something more along the lines of There Will Be Blood.

You don’t see Jack (or Locke, or Sayed, or Kate, or Sawyer, etc) standing over Ben’s corpse with a bloody bowling pin?

[RobotPants]

Yeah, he’s the ex-military professional hitman who forgot the old adage, “twice in the head, make sure he’s dead” when he realized his sole purpose on the island was to kill Ben.

The rest of them are experiencing severe daddy issues. Jacob (and/or not-Jacob) will fix them all, in this final season. This is why the show will end with Jack, Claire and their dad sitting around a campfire singing kumbayah.

So you’re saying Jacob isn’t actually dead?

[TheTrunkDr]

So you’re saying Jacob isn’t actually dead?

My own little theory: I think Jacob’s dead, however I think he had a plan which worked within anit-Jacob’s plan to result in the death of both of them. Jacob and anti-Jacob are some sort of exiled gods, Greek type gods that can actually die. The two have been banished to the island (or only anti-Jacob has, and Jacob is his guard or some such) and are essentially in purgatory though they can’t directly hurt each other for some reason.

Jacob, wants out, even if it’s by death. Anti-Jacob wants to kill Jacob (and possibly get off the island). Anti-Jacob concocted this scheme either very early on or when he saw the tension between the flight 815 survivors and Ben to manipulate them to kill Jacob. Jacob had a larger plan which encompasses anti-Jacob’s scheme and will ultimately result in anti-Jacob’s death aswell. What I’m not sure is what effect this will have on everyone else. I could see Jacob not really caring about the regular people and is only using them as a means to an end so their lives could be in jeopardy. Or he could be benevolent and is attempting to rid the world of anti-Jacob and he realizes he needs to sacrifice himself to do it and possibly the people on the island.

[Rasputin]

Ah, Sayid.

“Is there a radio transmitter on this island? Where is the radio transmitter? Did I mention I used to be a torturer, but I hate to talk about it? If I torture you will you give me the radio transmitter? Radio transmitter. Don’t make me torture you, I hate it! Can I torture you now? Radio transmitter.”

He’s a bit better now, of course.

I counter with: “THEY TOOK MY BOY!”

[zengonzo]

I think we can dismiss the “it’s all a dream” scenario. They just mentioned that last week:

I’m a bit cynical that they’ll come up with some variation of ‘it was all a dream’, though asserting that it wasn’t literally a dream.

If they conclude with anything which results in everything being OK, and all the bad stuff having been fixed - then it was all a dream.

That’s about the lowest it could go, anyways.

[Norfair]

I counter with: “THEY TOOK MY BOY!”

Man’s got a right to see his son.

[DT1]

I’m a bit cynical that they’ll come up with some variation of ‘it was all a dream’, though asserting that it wasn’t literally a dream.

If they conclude with anything which results in everything being OK, and all the bad stuff having been fixed - then it was all a dream.

That’s about the lowest it could go, anyways.

That’s why I don’t think they will go with the fantasy ending. Everybody will be yelling, “Cheat!” right at the ending of the show.

They’ve already introduced their cheat, and they did it two seasons ago! There’s nothing that can’t be explained away by time travel. And even though people will complain, they’ll talk about how it’s been in the narrative all along.

[arctangent]

The show will end with more questions than answers, leaving no one satisfied except the producers, who will have had a good laugh at the show’s fan’s expense.

This thread will reach 1000 pages, and will not satisfy anyone.

Ten years from now a sequel series will be made, called “LOST: The Next Generation”, which will be better than TOS and make tons of money, spawning an endless series of Lost movies. The by then aging cast members will be in great demand for Lost conventions, where hordes of fans will dress as their favorite character from the show and generally act like idiots or dorks or something. Hurley will be especially popular.

Just shoot me now.

[Nawid_A]

I hate this cynical Lost talk. Just watch and enjoy. No one owes anyone shit.

[corsair]

My own little theory: I think Jacob’s dead, however I think he had a plan which worked within anit-Jacob’s plan to result in the death of both of them. Jacob and anti-Jacob are some sort of exiled gods, Greek type gods that can actually die. The two have been banished to the island (or only anti-Jacob has, and Jacob is his guard or some such) and are essentially in purgatory though they can’t directly hurt each other for some reason.

Jacob, wants out, even if it’s by death. Anti-Jacob wants to kill Jacob (and possibly get off the island). Anti-Jacob concocted this scheme either very early on or when he saw the tension between the flight 815 survivors and Ben to manipulate them to kill Jacob. Jacob had a larger plan which encompasses anti-Jacob’s scheme and will ultimately result in anti-Jacob’s death aswell. What I’m not sure is what effect this will have on everyone else. I could see Jacob not really caring about the regular people and is only using them as a means to an end so their lives could be in jeopardy. Or he could be benevolent and is attempting to rid the world of anti-Jacob and he realizes he needs to sacrifice himself to do it and possibly the people on the island.

I must admit I prefer “Anti-Jacob”, but in the pop-up version of the episode, he is officially the Man in Black.

Chaos/order, good/bad, science/faith, yin/yang, white/black - two undefined elemental forces doing battle, moving their pawns about the board. I’m curious as to whether Jacob actually cares about his pawns or if it is an act. And whether the pawns will at some point decide that their fate is their own and revolt against the pair of them (and maybe, just maybe, resolve their various metaphorical “Lostnesses”).

Anyway, interesting speculations.

[zengonzo]

I hate this cynical Lost talk. Just watch and enjoy. No one owes anyone shit.

I owe myself better.

[nabeel]

The first 4 minutes of the season premiere are now online, thanks to a promo that ABC did. So who’s actually going to watch it? ;) I can wait 4 days.

[walTer]

I can’t imagine not waiting.