5321

So there were a couple of typically cryptic comments by Darlton on the Kimmel show last night. (It’s on the ABC site.)

They confirmed that FLocke was Smokey but said he was not possessed by the MIB. (This obviously suggests that Smokey and MIB may not be one and the same.)

When Kimmel asked if Jacob was inhabiting Sayid, they said something was but left it at that. (This doesn’t eliminate Jacob but seems to suggest something else - perhaps MIB?)

Also, they said the finale would be Sunday, May 23.

5322

Semantics.

Locke can’t be possessed since his body is on the ground outside. What the smoke does isn’t possessing, it’s just replicating a form and acquiring memories. This can’t be called possession.

5323

What? I thought Flocke and MIB were both board nicknames for the fake Locke? How can one be Smokey and the other not?

5324

Those guys have no idea what’s going on. Take anything they say pretty lightly.

5325

This could be an interesting ending for the show, with them having the two narratives/universes interact with each other somehow (through dead people and Desmond), but not actually merging them in some way. Sort of like the last episode of Star Trek TNG - except that there’s no moment where everything magically goes back to ‘normal’ during the climax. Both realities simply keep in existing with some characters being dead in one of them, but still alive in the other. Would not be surprised if Jack gets to be one of them.

5326

About Desmond…

Assume, for whatever reason, he still did train for the around the world trip and still met Jack briefly as before. With no island, Desmond actually completes the trip, and therefore isn’t stuck on the island for years and has had other things happen in his life, which lead him to actually be on the plane.

5327

I’d just like to say that the premiere being full of Jack getting his ass kicked and insulted was complete fanservice for true Lost fans. Big ups to my nizzle JJ.

5328

Yeah, they’re telling two stories now which gives them more flexibility. The 2007 people (original timeline) have presumably completed their mission set up in the narrative. If that timeline resulted in an apocalypse of some sort (as hinted at by the Numbers), they can still have a happy ending happen for the show overall in the 2004 alternate timeline where the variables of the Numbers have been changed to prevent doom.

5329

Agreed. I always assume they are yanking our chain but I thought I would share it.

5330

Interesting, yes. Possible - no way in hell. Putting a bunch of pieces on two different boards and then not putting the boards together would be very avant garde, but the first response that ninety percent of their audience would have after seeing it would be “why the hell did I watch half of this season?” At some point, you’ve got to use all your pieces. I suspect that somebody (Desmond is a leading candidate, but he seemed pretty thick on the plane, so maybe it’ll be Jack) will end up perceiving both universes and realize that the one where they don’t all get roundly reamed in the ass by a plane crash and a giant smoke monster and every other horrible thing that’s happened to them so far is really, really, really terrible and decide that they can’t marry Lois and the resolution will follow. If the audience are the only people who are aware of both universes, that ends up making both universes less meaningful.

5331

But at that point they’ve already gotten paid. :)

Merging the two stories can be done but how do they avoid the paradox? Interested to see what happens.

5332

I dunno, it’ll be the end of the show. They simply might not care and conclude it just the way they want it. See The Sopranos.

5333

I can see a sonic fence stopping something that I perceive as magical (so may be a technology that I don’t understand), though I still don’t understand why Smokey couldn’t just go up and over it. What I don’t see as a strong candidate for scientific explanation is a line of ashes keeping anyting non-mystical from going anywhere.

5334

It is always good to compare against how the show actually develops.

5335

Interesting thought: In the Happy Lucky People timeline, Hurley’s friend in the nuthouse never heard the Numbers, as they weren’t being broadcast any more, so Hurley never thought to play those particular numbers on the lottery. So, basically Hurley really is just lucky.

5336

I have a feeling that in time we will learn that the 2004 timeline without the island is going to have some serious issues, that the island is somehow important. With no island, is Esau/Smoke Monster roaming free? Jacob might be running around trying to find a way to raise the island and re-jail Esau.

5337

Good point, assuming Penny exists.

On Smokey, didn’t Ben release Smokey inside the fence to kill Keamy and his soldiers? Or was that some kind of summoning thing or what?

5338

This is what I assumed when I was watching the show. Of course, at the time I’d forgotten that the whole reason he went on the trip in the first place is because he was hell-bent on impressing Penny’s father. But in this reality, Penny’s father is dead. Of course, he could have done it for other reasons, or not done it at all and run into Jack while exercising one day.

5339

I have a sneaking suspicion that the person Ben and the Benothers thought was Jacob was actually Blackie all along pretending to be Jacob.

5340

This.

And when I read it, I had a flash of Michael Douglas from Falling Down. “I’m the bad guy?”