HRose
5401
Yeah, that’s the point. I expected this episode to be pretty bad because of Kate. But it’s the last season so I thought the plot would at least move. Instead it doesn’t move and even the dialogues were awful.
Dunno if it was a smart idea to make a so bad episode just after the pilot and give already an occasion for getting disaffected after the good results of the first.
Rock8man
5402
Heheh. Well, I’m glad that it’s out of the way now, rather than coming later in the season when we will be needing some stellar episodes to wrap up the show.
Jazar
5403
I’m glad this is the last season because I can’t take anymore fucking scenes where someone promises to “tell you everything you want to know” and then it never comes up again (until someone else makes the same empty promise).
They spent an hour doing nothing. I can’t believe they’re still dragging in the last season.
Jazar
5405
That’s not exactly true we learned a few things. 1) Sayid is “infected” and should die. 2) Claire is still alive and also “infected”. 3) The Last Samurai likes baseball. 4) Mac is still funny even when he’s not in Philly. 3) Creepy Ethan is still creepy.
It was an exposition episode, not an action episode - the point here was to let Master Splinter tell us that there really is an infection, reintroduce Claire, and show us that The World Where None of This Happened is no particularly great shakes and everybody still has their dicks in everybody else’s pie. The Sawyer/Kate scenes were useless, and I’m still not exactly clear on why Evie had to break down crying because somebody else’s wife died, but the way that the episodes are structures, they had to do SOMETHING with her in the 2007 timeline in this show.
Edit: Also, Mac might still be funny outside of Philadelphia, but he takes me way the hell out of the show. I keep expecting his two idiot friends to show up and have a conversation about why nipple tweaking should never happen before the fifth and seven eighths date. It’s one of those things that makes me react in a way I don’t think I’m supposed to, like how I laughed when Juliet “died.”
Everything we learned in this episode we learned in the space of 5 minutes. Granted, those five minutes came 30 seconds at a time throughout the hour. I’m not thrilled that the direction they seem to be taking this is the same as the first season, little dribbles of island action interspersed with lots of “flashbacks” (only these are alternate timeline ones in this case). If that’s where they’re going, then the alternate timeline better turn out to be really goddamn important to the finale of the show, otherwise we’re wasting our time.
If they spend an episode on Artz in the alternate timeline and he ends up blowing himself up in a high school chem lab accident, I’m done watching the show!
Jazar
5408
Hello and welcome to LOST.
My take was, she realized she blew it with Sawyer and doesn’t stand a chance of her getting him back.
If she was so hung up on Sawyer, I’m forced to wonder why she was playing hide the salami for three years with Jack. That occurred to me, but the only thing I could think is, why is she so torn up NOW?
Because the writers don’t know what to do with her and Jack’s limited acting abilities?
Because when she was with Jack, he provided enough support for both her and Aaron. Sawyer’s not the Daddy type.
And she wasn’t with Jack for three years. They were off island total for three years. It looked like Jack and her were together for only a portion of that time.
DT1
5413
And Jack degenerated into something of a mess during that time.
Also they had to do something to give Sawyer closure so they could put that piece of the plot behind them, more or less, I’m sure it’ll come up again but now they can ignore it for a while.
I agree though they really need to start exposing more rather than trying to present more mysteries. I don’t like that they’ve introduced yet another faction on the island and that they’re keeping all these secrets for no apparent reason but that they’re portrayed as having the Losties’ best interest at heart. Why doesn’t Samurai Jack just level with them, they’ve been time traveling, setting off nukes and fighting smoke monsters I think they’re capable of accepting that wacky ass shit happens there.
They haven’t introduced another faction. The people in the temple are the same people who we’ve been referring to as the Others all along. Remember how at the end of S3 (I think) Ben told Richard to get everyone to the temple?
Yeah, yeah, I know. But last season was different, I actually felt like most episodes moved forward considerably. Given that this is it for the series, I’d hoped for more of that this season.
My take on Sawyer/Kate was the same. She left the temple to find him, in fact she probably returned to the island to find him. Her story about returning to find Claire seemed like a half-truth she put out there because she couldn’t tell Sawyer she came back for him given his relationship with Juliet and the loss he’d just suffered. Hence the crying on the dock. She knows he’s gone now as far as she’s concerned.
I really thought Sawyer was about to commit suicide on the edge of that bed (which would have tied back in to his own father’s death). Whatever his deal is, you can tell he’s really messed up, as he hasn’t called anyone a nickname since Juliet died.
Then the secrets make even less sense as does the defense against Smokey as they used to have some control over him.
We don’t know that they did. The only thing we’ve seen re: smoke monster is Ben called it once, but if Ben has been secretly duped into working for Blackie all this time (as I suspect) then that’s not as meaningful as it appeared.
We still don’t know anything about the rules and workings of the Island to make a guess at Temple motivations.
Jazar
5419
It’ll be interesting to see where they take Sawyer. Just before the S5 finale he seemed to be the most emotionally stable character in the group. Now after Juliet died he’s still deep in the grieving stage. Lets see what happens when he gets out of his funk.
I liked the subtext in Sawyer’s farewell to Kate.
“Don’t try to follow me (because you ruin everything).”