Lost

The_Other_Guy1 · 2010-02-13T12:01:05.000Z

Jeff Green:

I assume some of you have been following “Doc” Jensen’s analyses of Lost on EW, but if you haven’t, this week’s is really good. Made me appreciate the episode more:

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20313460_20343202,00.html

First lines:

Meet Kate Austen, the Good Shepherdess. When the sheep wander off (to grieve dead girlfriends), or become stranded in the wild (i.e., the terrifying urban jungle of Los Angeles), the foxy fugitive will put her own security at risk to rescue the sad strays of her flighty flock, no matter where they go or where she may be in the multiverse.

Arghhh. More power to you, Jeff, for making it through that “Tom Robbins writes the copy for a T.G.I. Friday’s menu” prose style.

Chuck · 2010-02-13T12:18:49.000Z

I liked how the title of the episode hints at changing the past: ‘What Kate Does’ as opposed to the earlier episode (season 1 or 2?) where her crime is revealed, titled: ‘What Kate Did’.

Jeff_Green · 2010-02-14T09:16:37.000Z

The Other Guy:

First lines:

Arghhh. More power to you, Jeff, for making it through that “Tom Robbins writes the copy for a T.G.I. Friday’s menu” prose style.

The reason I can handle it (as opposed to, say, Tim Rodgers) is that Jensen seems to pretty much know he’s full of shit. But in between the overblown prose, I find he draws some interesting parallels in the Lost narrative. Still, I can’t blame anyone for hating him. :)

jerri_blank · 2010-02-14T19:05:03.000Z

drewl:

Edit: Dr. whatshisname (Tom Cruise’s cousinn) with Claire is a good guy off the island having never gone there I guess

Yeah, I don’t get that. Ethan Rom/Goodspeed was born on the island. He left it a few times, apparently, because he was involved in recruiting Juliette, but it makes no sense to me that he’s in LA simply because the plane didn’t crash.

HRose:

One of the worst Lost episodes ever. Filled with overdramatic, terrible dialogs, artificial padding of story and mystery just for the sake of being obtuse. It’s like if this episode was written by the Stargate Universe authors.

Call me a girl, but I liked Sawyer’s scenes with Kate back at the compound.

Hunty:

If they then come back, I am not going to get back in the cab with them just because they smile at me. I’m definitely not going to then ask them to be my best friend, confidant, and OB/GYN nurse within the space of two hours. I mean, seriously?

My prediction is that Sideways Claire and Sideways Kate will become a couple and co-parent Aaron.

Hey, a girl can dream.

jason · 2010-02-14T19:16:30.000Z

jerri blank:

Yeah, I don’t get that. Ethan Rom/Goodspeed was born on the island. He left it a few times, apparently, because he was involved in recruiting Juliette, but it makes no sense to me that he’s in LA simply because the plane didn’t crash.

If he’s over the age of 27 (1977 to 2004) then he was probably still born on the island, but evacuated like lots of folks. While we’ve seen the island underwater, we have no other info. I suspect that the bomb went off in 1977 deep in that hole, combined with the energy down there, vaporized a ton of rock and the island sank. We’ll have to see if anyone we know to have been on the island in 77 when the bomb blew is somehow still alive in the alternate timeline. So far, they’ve only shown us people who now never went, or can easily be explained as having evacuated prior.

jerri_blank · 2010-02-14T19:27:34.000Z

jason:

If he’s over the age of 27 (1977 to 2004) then he was probably still born on the island, but evacuated like lots of folks. While we’ve seen the island underwater, we have no other info. I suspect that the bomb went off in 1977 deep in that hole, combined with the energy down there, vaporized a ton of rock and the island sank. We’ll have to see if anyone we know to have been on the island in 77 when the bomb blew is somehow still alive in the alternate timeline. So far, they’ve only shown us people who now never went, or can easily be explained as having evacuated prior.

Actually, he was born in '77. I totally forgot that Juliet helped deliver him.

JD · 2010-02-16T08:58:25.000Z

Finally got around to seeing the episode. The good thing about it: We know the next one won’t be centered around Kate.

I’m not sure why the article is calling her a “Good Shepherdess”. As far as I’ve seen it, throughout the previous seasons, Kate was mostly concerned with one person: Kate. She often broke away from whatever group she was with when it seemed in her best interest. Sure, there also were times when she helped others - but it’s still nowhere near being comparable to the helper syndrome Jack suffers from.

Also, yeah, some pretty logic gaps. As others already pointed out - simply tracking Claire down hours after she left her stranded somewhere in L.A.? No problem at all.

Why didn’t the others simply kill Sayid after the test? Forcing him to swallow that pill or simply shooting him. No, it had to be turned into some mindgame about having Jack deliver the ‘medicine’. A few hours earlier they wanted to shoot Jack et al anyway and didn’t hesitate. Now that Jacob’s instruction (Help them save Sayid.) didn’t work out, they could have just murdered him and not care about what Jack thinks about that.

Brian_Seiler · 2010-02-16T09:52:36.000Z

JD:

Also, yeah, some pretty logic gaps. As others already pointed out - simply tracking Claire down hours after she left her stranded somewhere in L.A.? No problem at all.

I got the impression that she was at the bus stop closest to the airport. I do not know why.

JD:

Why didn’t the others simply kill Sayid after the test? Forcing him to swallow that pill or simply shooting him. No, it had to be turned into some mindgame about having Jack deliver the ‘medicine’. A few hours earlier they wanted to shoot Jack et al anyway and didn’t hesitate. Now that Jacob’s instruction (Help them save Sayid.) didn’t work out, they could have just murdered him and not care about what Jack thinks about that.

Test of faith. One of the major themes in Jack’s story is his utter and complete inability to hold faith in anything or anybody. I don’t think it’s entirely safe at this point to assume that the poison is really poison anyway. It sure as hell looks like some terrible St. John’s Wort pills I played around with to see if antidepressants would actually do anything to me, but I’m guessing they don’t have access to the Kroger pharmacy at Master Splinter’s Resort and Day Spa. I seem to recall another something about some of The Others or The Other Others or whatever not wanting to kill people ever.

jason · 2010-02-16T10:02:28.000Z

I don’t see how tracking down Claire would be a problem. She got stranded, walked probably less than 100 feet to the nearest bus stop to sit down (pregnant women like to sit down), and then waited for the bus.

Rock8man · 2010-02-16T20:28:42.000Z

So, my DVR didn’t record the episode this week. Was it a repeat? Or will I need to go looking for it tomorrow? Do they put Lost episodes on ABC the next day? Or Hulu? I’m hoping it was a repeat because of the Olympics.

Lloyd_Heilbrunn · 2010-02-16T20:31:03.000Z

Nope, new. About the only new show anyone has put against the Olympics.

I expect if you can’t find it before then it will be repeated next week at 8.

DT1 · 2010-02-16T21:24:00.000Z

Rock8man:

So, my DVR didn’t record the episode this week. Was it a repeat? Or will I need to go looking for it tomorrow? Do they put Lost episodes on ABC the next day? Or Hulu? I’m hoping it was a repeat because of the Olympics.

They’ll post it at ABC, probably tomorrow. Another episode that’s mainly filler or veiled exposition, it seems. The original timeline still feels doomed. This episode is all about the “candidate” concept. It feels like The Stand. Perhaps they’re looking for the Trashcan Man.

seventimessix · 2010-02-16T21:42:46.000Z

What. The. Fuck.

Sean_Hargraves · 2010-02-16T21:48:58.000Z

Coca Cola Zero:

It is 2004, you’re in a foreign country, probably don’t have American quarters even if you could find a pay phone and you have no cell phone, how are you going to call the cops in the 20 or so minutes you are away from Kate?

You don’t need quarters to call the police from a pay phone.

Libra · 2010-02-16T23:24:05.000Z

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HRose · 2010-02-17T01:02:49.000Z

OMG, did they just revealed what the numbers are about?

And it all makes sense…

HRose · 2010-02-17T01:08:59.000Z

Yep, pretty awesome episode after Kate’s agony.

Lots of fun touches everywhere and we get to know a lot more.

Jazar · 2010-02-17T05:08:27.000Z

Dammit why couldn’t he give us his name!

Brian_Seiler · 2010-02-17T05:26:28.000Z

There’s a Richard episode at some point this season. They’ve got to save SOMETHING for then.

So, my theory now is that everybody’s life will be better with no Island, except for setting off that bomb caused some kind of global thermonuclear thing and now either Russia is a wasteland or somewhere that’s not supposed to be totalitarian is or global warming has caused the Earth’s oceans to rise like twenty feet.

Lloyd_Heilbrunn · 2010-02-17T06:37:22.000Z

Brian Seiler:

There’s a Richard episode at some point this season. They’ve got to save SOMETHING for then.

So, my theory now is that everybody’s life will be better with no Island, except for setting off that bomb caused some kind of global thermonuclear thing and now either Russia is a wasteland or somewhere that’s not supposed to be totalitarian is or global warming has caused the Earth’s oceans to rise like twenty feet.

Except Rose will die of cancer.