5961

Desmond and Daniel. Wooohooo! And someone finally noting Desmond and Penny are related. And mom still seeming to see across time and dimension. With indications that the whole flash sideways timeline is the false one (which, lets face it, would be an “it was all a dream” copout if it became the only reality for the characters). I just want to have them line up all the episodes tomorrow so I can finish the final chapter - dang, if it was a book I’d just not go to sleep until I finished.

5962

Did you mean Penny and Daniel?

Who is Penny’s mother?

5963

Best episode this season after a row of suck.

5964

As much as I (and everyone) like Desmond it feels like they do the Desmond episode every season and they damned well better actually do something important with the character and then let him live happily ever fucking after this time.

5965

Damn, I wanted to see Driveshaft play the party.
Desmond has Penny has his constant (we were told) which is why he never went nuts like Fisher Stevens.
I’m guessing they need Desmond to go back and re-change the islands fate.

5966

That was the best part of the episode, IMHO. She drops the wonderful Mrs. Widmore routine, and the steely look comes into her eyes: “Because you’re not ready, yet!” It implies that this timeline was made for Desmond’s benefit, and not necessarily for anyone else’s. Desmond certainly has everything he’d superficially wanted – sort of an “It’s a Wonderful Life” moment.

5967

I love Desmond and I thought this episode was decent, as they finally seem to be doing something with the alternate timeline rather than it just being filler, but I’m just not all that into this season. I’m pushing through it because it’s the last one and I do want to know how it all turns out but it really seems like a good 80%-90% of this season was completely unnecessary. I know the characters, I’ve watched them for 5 seasons prior to this, I don’t need this level of character analysis about them anymore, get to resolving the damn story already!

5968

Because Daniel’s mom knew that she was fated to kill him and sent him back to the island to die.

5969

Also, Widmore was on The Island for the enbombening if I recall correctly, so he saw his son get shot directly in the body by his…well, woman who may or may not have been his wife but was at a minimum carrying his child. Widmore was tossed off of The Cork by Ben some time after he grew up to be a bastard.

5970

I would watch a show where every week Desmond and Penny meet or reunite in a different fashion.

5971

My guess as to what’s going to happen:

The alternate timeline is real - blowing up the nuke succeeded (Juliette said so, remember). The Losties in the alternate timeline, perhaps guided by Desmond, are going to do something to abort it and return things back to the regular timeline and that’s where we pick up - with everyone back on the island in the modern day, and Juliette dying at the bottom of a hole.

5972

Well, we already know that the alternate timeline is just as real as the regular timeline because Cuse and Lindelof go out of their way to encourage people not to call it the “alternate” timeline, because “that implies that it might be ‘less real’ than the Island time.”

I kind of don’t think that they’re going to make the other one go away, necessarily. The different history appears to be either a temptation or a repayment for what they’ve gone through (which would be why everybody that’s not on Team Lockeness has gotten basically everything they wanted). I’m guessing that Desmond is going to have to do something in the different history to stop the uncontained smoke entity from doing something terrible since The Cork is no longer floating that will probably end up costing him his life, Jack (or another Candidate) is going to have to make the hard decision of being Re-Jacob on The Cork in Anchor Universe, and everybody else gets to be happy if they want to, possibly in the different history. Maybe?

Geh. Five more left before the finale, which will presumably be Desmonded all the hell up and have side flashes from everybody. If the promo at the end of the episode is any indication, I think next week will be Hurley, and I believe that the scuttlebutt is that one of the remaining episodes features none of the regular cast at all and is basically Jacob’s story. Who does that leave for the other three? Sun and Jin were kind of covered together, so who’s still alive on The Island to flash with? I’ll be disappointed if they don’t do something with the entire cast of dead people (some of whom will still return but have not yet returned) that made brief appearances or allusions in the season premier or the gossip running up to the season but haven’t been seen since.

My Utterly Uninformed Bet:

  1. Claire Episode, probably covering the distance between her meeting Charlie in Different History Universe (odds that they’re in the same hospital?) and getting Kate out of the hospital and up to that fence.

  2. Christian Episode. For one thing, I want precisely what exactly happened that killed him. Even if he went out Nick Cage in Leaving Las Vegas style, it still feels like we’re missing a scene. For another, it’s an in for Ana Lucia, who needs to do her victory lap before the show goes out.

  3. Rose and Bernard? Maybe? We technically don’t know they’re still alive, but we have been guaranteed on the podcast that Vincent survives through to the end and he was with them. They’re not in the right hemisphere to get Shannon into the action, though, and that still needs to happen. Who’s still on The Island that could fill this slot.

Other question: They said that they’d answer where the Dharma Drop back in Lockdown came from, but probably not on the show, which I took to mean on the web series that they’re doing for this season (Splashdown? Some amusement park ride thing, anyway). Is anybody watching that?

5973

A lapidus episode please?

5974

Also, who the donkey assing hell is Jack’s wife? The producers said that it would be “somebody we’d recognize,” so that leaves:

  1. His Old Wife - Boring.

  2. Ana Lucia - She did not pass even one single physical feature on to the boy.

  3. Shannon - Doesn’t fit with leaving her in Australia.

  4. Libby - That would be hella interesting, and a neat way to work the reveal in with the Hurley flash, but I doubt it.

  5. Juliet - Now we’re talking, but how do we do the reveal?

  6. The redhead whose name I can’t remember - Also boring, because we’ve already seen her. Reasonable, though.

Who else is in the running? And how in the frog punting weasel hell do they intend to fit that into the five and finale episodes they have left?

5975

DUDE. DUDE.

Yeah, what he said.

5976

Juliet imo, when jin takes sun to the hospital. hint hint baby

5977

I wonder if what he isn’t ready for is becoming like her, able to share a consciousness across the different timelines or whatever it is she does, like in the first episode we saw her in.

Then, just as one of the candidates will replace Jacob, someone will be taking her role as well.

Desmond isn’t a candidate is he?

Also, I second a Lapidus episode.

5978

If that really is the full list of possibilities, then obviously Juliet is David’s mother.

5979

I had higher expectations for this episode. It was OK, but I was a bit disappointed nevertheless because the story didn’t really move forward. I guess Desmond’s occasional awareness of both timelines was supposed to be the big reveal, but it also is what pretty much everyone had predicted. And it sort of lacked tension because you knew that he’d survive that test. I also found the dialogues where Charly and Daniel get into the whole “There’s that special someone. And you felt it!” a bit forced.

Enjoyed the callback to season 2 and 3 though where Desmond was ‘babysitting’ Charly and trying to prevent his demise.

Overall quite solid, but I liked the episodes centered around Sayid, Richard, and Ben better.

Are you talking about 1977? Nope, Whitmore got exiled later. It was how Ben ultimately ended up being the leader of the Others.

My first thought was that he wants to find Claire and introduce her to Charly. But then again, Charly had not told him enough about that blond girl he saw when he almost died during the flight; not enough for him to figure out it could have been Claire.

5980

The big reveal of that whole episode is that Charles and Desmond are now on the same side (for now) in both realities. This has substantial implications, and addresses a conflict that has run throughout the entire show.

Maybe not so much a “reveal” as a “development,” but it’s a huge deal. Seeing whose side everyone ends up being on at the end is a major theme of this season, and before it started I would never have imagined Desmond and Charles ending up on the same team.