Hunty
6001
Is it being treated as bad? I certainly haven’t seen it that way. Even leaving aside the hundreds of people not killed by the island, the vast majority of the main characters seem to have it better in the alternative world, either by being alive, better adjusted, happier or possessed of awesome chops. Compared to the island universe it’s a picnic - which makes me assume something bad must be coming around the pike. Otherwise why would anyone give a shit if Smokey got free?
The common theme in Earth 2004 appears to be that people who sided with Ilana/Jacob/Lucifer from Supernatural work through the issues that have been bothering them (Jack figures out that it doesn’t matter what his dad thinks of him, Ben learns self-sacrifice and helps his imagination daughter, John - who is dead, but I assume could be considered as generally on The Cork’s side - learns to accept his limitations, etc.) whereas people who aren’t on his team tend to be stuck with the same ridiculous bullcrap they had before the crash ever happened (Sayid is worse off because now the woman he wants to be with is married to his brother and he’s still a killer, Kate is still on the run from the law). Most of the individuals that we’ve seen in Earth 2004 were, on the whole, much better off than they were in Earth 2007, or at least aren’t any worse. You could argue that Rose is now dying of cancer again, but we don’t even know if she’s still alive in Earth 2007 for sure and she’s accepted her illness in Earth 2004 and is dealing with it as best she can.
My theory is that either we’re going to find out that something really, seriously bad and wrong is the case in Earth 2004 (Russia and the United States engaged in limited thermonuclear war in the 70s and somehow that made lots of global warming, a totalitarian dictator rules some or all of the world, etc.) or Earth 2004 is either the make-up present for the whole Cork Island Massacre thing or is another part of whatever game it is that Still Unexplained Small Boy and Hawking are calling between the two superbeings.
I wonder if the characters in the 2007 timeline will start to realize the existence of their counterparts in the alternate 2004 timeline. I think it would be interesting to see the 2007 Jack discover he has a son, a son he would effectively kill if he assists in “fixing” the alternate timeline.
My future self, returning from tonight when this episode will have been shown on Dutch TV, had only one word to convey: Ubik.
When Eloise tells Desmond that his current life is too good to be true, she seems to implicate that it isn’t true/real.
Also, Charlie is going out of his way trying to kill himself, because he’s convinced that that doesn’t work. His hypothesis seems correct. “The island won’t let him” doesn’t work as an explanation there.
My prediction: the “sunk island” timeline will ultimately be destroyed. It still matters because of what Jacob told Hurley: Jack has to find the island/himself. Why this matters, and how they’re going to make this work without us all feeling cheated, I don’t know. We’ll find out soon enough.
Oh, and my future self enjoyed this episode a lot.
walTer
6005
I do like this Charlie better.
jason
6006
The Lost finale is being extended to 3 hours.
ducker
6008
that wasn’t the original length? my google-fu is rather weak, so I couldn’t find much of anything.
I thought it was already extended to three hours a while back, but either way, good for them. Maybe. Three hours is a lot of television.
jason
6010
Actually, it looks like I shouldn’t trust my friends… its a 5 hour night, 2 hour retrospective, 2 hour finale, and then a 1 hour Kimmel special about the show (presumably with lots of guests).
I thought so. They already extended the finale a few months back, so I can see how confusing versions of the more recent development would propagate.
Jacob = Monitor ?
UnLocke = Anti-Monitor ?
Monitor was murdered by his assistant the Harbinger.
Jacob was murdered by his assistant, Ben.
The Anti-Monitor uses “shadow demons.”
“I’m the only one left who remembers the Infinite Earths. You see, I know the truth. I remember all that happened, and I’m not going to forget. Worlds lived, worlds died. Nothing will ever be the same. But those were great days for me… I had a good friend in the good old days, really. He was the Anti-Monitor. He was going to give me a world to rule. Now he’s gone, too. But that’s okay with me. You see, I like to remember the past because those were better times than now. I mean, I’d rather live in the past than today, wouldn’t you? I mean, nothing’s ever certain anymore. Nothing’s ever predictable like it used to be. These days … y-you just never know who’s going to die … and who’s going to live.” - Psycho Pirate
Psycho Pirate = Desmond ? He did go willingly with Sayid to meet UnLocke. Rather happily actually.
They are filming the finale right now (or were last week or so), so I imagine if they thought they could squeeze more into it to make it longer with everything they want to do they could probably (and evidently successfully) make a case to extend it.
— Alan
Well, they need to leave something for the Movie…
robsam
6015
Lost…I Want To Believe.
Please don’t let this happen.
Just rewatched the episode and i have a bad feeling its going to end up with some crap about the “power of love”
Adree
6017
OH GOD NO NOT WHITMORE THE ORANGE LANTERN
Nawid_A
6018
Now I have to do it:
Red Lantern: Sayid
Orange Lantern: Whitmore
Yellow Lantern: Ben
Green Lantern: Sawyer
Blue Lantern: Desmond
Indigo Lantern: Hurley
Violet Lantern: Kate
White Lantern: Jacob
Black Lantern: Locke
Spoken like someone who has never escaped from a time loop on a cursed island through the power of love.
I would forgive them for it if they played the Huey Louis song over the end credits.