Here’s a crazy theory I have based in part on last night’s WTF moments…
In Island Time, everyone but Jack, Locke and Desmond end up dead through the events leading up to the final confrontation. In Alternate Time, Desmond has awakened all the LOSTies, and gathers them together. He explains that the weird “memories” they have are actually real memories from before the “1977 Event” which caused a rift in the timeline that should never have happened. The Alternate Time is not supposed to exist, and the people in it are not supposed to be who/where they are. He convinces them to return to Island Time (somehow, some way) and once in Island Time the balance is restored, their real memories come rushing back, and somehow they all assist Jack in defeating Locke. Jack assumes the duties as the new Jacob (bottling up Locke once again), and everyone else leaves the island in a “happily ever after” sort of way.
I’m not sure how they get all that done in what amounts to 4.5 episodes (2 regular episodes and a 2.5 hour finale) but it’s about the only way I can see that doesn’t result in a total bloodbath ending for the series.
HRose
6242
Well, if someone wants to be the guinea pig, here’s the link:
The images of the script are in english.
Jazar
6243
I hope no one here even hints about what’s in the final script.
If anyone intentionally spoils the show, they should get banned.
jason
6245
I knew that Lapidus didn’t stand a chance of surviving, but I had hope anyway. I am now in mourning.
I think more people have died in the past couple or three episodes than have died in entire seasons of the show (excluding the pilot when a plane full of people shuffle off).
Jazar
6246
Did they show him die or do we just assume he didn’t get off the sub?
jason
6247
They showed him turn to leave the room he was in with the captain, he quipped, then the door exploded inward with water pressure and he was clocked by the big heavy metal door. I think it is fairly safe to assume he was at least unconscious on the sinking submarine, and therefore dead.
On the other hand, this is Jeff Fahey we’re talking about. He may not have one eye, but he’s at least as hairy as Russian Guy, and a door to the face can’t be more difficult to survive than a harpoon to the chest.
Ender
6249
I must have missed it, but whatever happened to Ben?
He didn’t get killed by the mortar attacks did he? Seems like an ignominious death for such a central character.
Ben and Miles went with Richard to The Barracks to get explosives to destroy the plane.
Apparently.
Yep, and we haven’t seen them since. Could be they got them and they wired the plan… though I doubt that as Widmore had men guarding it.
HRose
6252
Yep.
They plugged science in mysticism to insert 4 other series. 1 & 6 got back the mysticism and dropped the science. So, ideally, all the seasons in the middle were filler.
HRose
6253
I’m missing Sayid role. Wasn’t he evil? Or maybe he was really just simply resurrected.
He was and while I have never thought deeply about the show, what’s happened recently has made me start to wonder how the two timelines are connected and if there is a cause and effect. Does it matter that the alternate Sayid got caught and will be punished? Maybe island Sayid doesn’t need to go through the turmoil anymore?
I don’t quite get the Jins’s death stuff. Seemed arbitrary to have a sad moment in the show, at least in how it might parallel what was going on in alternate universe (where they escape, end up together, and have a baby).
I don’t really know, but I guess I’m curious about the relationship between the two timelines beyond just here’s an alternate.
I hold out hope that because we didn’t see his body, that Lapitus survived. Ideally because he is a secret candidate whose name they didn’t see because no one could spell it right. On the wall it reads “74. Labid(crossed out)… 74. Lapee(crossed out)… 74. Lepey(crossed out)… 74. FUCKIT THE GRUMPY GUY.”
But it is not much hope.
walTer
6256
Lapidus quickly became one of my top um, 3 characters…Sad to see him go but the way he when was just perfect. AWWW SHIT…BAM! (I tend to think we DID see it…well not floating like Sun and Jin…my money is on dead)
Sayid…to be fair, we did not actually see him die…not that it makes a difference but I never trust this show when we don’t see the body…or even if we do.
Jin and Sun…I have to say I was surprised that Sun didn’t stress the daughter issue more to make Jin live.
Agreed; that was a glaring omission and completely out of character for Sun. She should have and would have made that argument.
And I was bummed that Sun didn’t once mention how good Jin’s English had become. Language was such an important part of their story over the six seasons… these little character moments are getting lost (hah!) as we hurtle toward the endgame.
HRose
6259
I rewatched the talk between Sayid and Jack. It seems that the show can’t do any more misleading.
As I said a couple of weeks ago, it’s all clear. This episode was focused on Jack and Locke, next episode is Locke and Jacob.
Sayid says to Jack: “It’s going to be you.” Meaning that Jack is the true Jacob successor (Jack for the whole episode confirms this).
Sayid for the whole time has never been “evil”. What happened to him was entirely un-mystical. He was resurrected by the smoke monster, so convinced himself that he owed to him. He’s evil because he thinks his destiny is in doing what Locke asks. He was being granted life, so he owes everything to Locke. He didn’t go through any transformation beside the fact he’s alive again.
But then he understands, right when Jack explains it, that Locke is doing everything to his own advantages (including resurrecting Sayid, to then use him as an ally). Locke can’t kill the people in the sub, and he can’t kill Desmond. That’s why he needed Sayid to kill Desmond. Carlton Cuse commented this directly: “There is no ambiguity. [The Man In Black] is evil and he has to be stopped…” That’s the purpose of this episode, they wanted to clear the ambiguity about Locke in order to prepare for the finale.
And we got the conclusion: Locke is evil, wants to be free, and needs all the candidates dead so that he can gain freedom. But he can’t kill them himself, and so needs some other way out of this.
That’s the context. The missing piece is how the alternate timeline fits in all this, and the missing link is obviously Desmond.
Wha? The show has plenty of room left to be misleading, and the fact that they’re making it so blatantly obvious that Jack is the Jacob successor has me convinced that its all just a red herring to draw our attention away from the other candidates. Kate in particular. She looked like she was in pretty good shape at the end of the episode considering she’d just been shot, not treated at all, and dragged from a sinking submarine onto a beach. Maybe her name being crossed out was an Unlocke trick, or maybe it was some sort of test to see how she’d act if she thought she was no longer a candidate, or maybe she doesn’t factor in at all anymore, but the Jack thing feels more and more like a big setup for a Dramatic Twist Ending. Maybe Hurley will end up winning, and we’ll get to see him talking to all the people who died to keep himself company. :)
