It sounded like mostly Greek or something else I’m not familiar with to me, except for one line that Mom had which sounded very Spanish.
That wasn’t clear to me. Is it “Esau” reforming the smoke into the image of his own body? Or is it the energy in the cave taking the form of the deceased “Esau”?
drewl
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(WTF?)^2
I’m assuming you guys now what fable/mythology/comic book all that came from?
Yeah, plus the non-Mom told them that she’d made it so they couldn’t hurt each other. That didn’t exactly seem to be true. I mean, Jacob kind of killed his twin, didn’t he? At least his body. Also, what is she supposed to be, some kind of sorceress who can make arbitrary rules that they have to follow?
Plus, remember later as they’re watching the ship from the foot of the statue, the twin tells Jacob he wished he could kill him. And later, he finds a way. If it’s just the energy in the cave taking the form of the twin, then why would it be bound by the same rules? So it has to be the twin reforming into the image of his own body, right?
So the smoke part is somewhat explained, but not how Jacob doesn’t age, gets his powers, and can actually come and go from the island. Nor why bad things will happen if evil twin leaves.
drewl
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Nope, more questions than answers…crazy lady kills their mother, strange river cave of light…I thought for sure you guys would know all the answers.
Didn’t crazy lady basically say this to the mother? Any answers would lead to more questions. Sounds like the writers are having some fun with the fans’ demands for answers.
bloo
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Don’t be coy. What are you trying to say?
Except now there is motivation, meaning and context. Even if it remains mystical, it has finally achieved a level of plot coherence approaching Greek myth - which works for me where storytelling is concerned.
So you’re saying the writers are about to hit all of us in the head with a stone?
Which is something we’re all familiar with. Parents tell their children they can’t cross the street without them.
Well, of course they can - but that’s not the whole story.
Haven’t they already done this with seasons 3 and 4?
Yeah, that’s what I figured it was too. For example, my mom used to tell us brothers that if we jumped over the heads of the others, the person who was jumped over would stay short forever. She later confessed when we were older that this was just a ploy to try to prevent accidents.
But there is definitely something going on later in the story, since Jacob’s twin did find a way to get Jacob indirectly. I figure it has something to do with the cave with the light, and the liquid that Jacob drank that made him the keeper of the cave of light, and his twin falling into the cave of light and becoming a being made of smoke. I figure that maybe that connection is what makes them not able to hurt each other.
I wonder if that’s a rule that Jacob came up with for his little game? Just like his twin came up with the rules for their little white/black pieces game. The rule that they couldn’t hurt one another, and that they couldn’t hurt the candidates, and the candidates couldn’t commit suicide.
It can also be written off as a moray:
I can’t kill my brother …
But, yeah - The Game.
DT1
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Finally, some answers. So it’s zombie aliens then, yes?
What answers? The basically came up with, “It’s turtles all the way down.” That was terribly disappointing.
I’m now rooting for the smoke monster.
Most of this episode I was just sitting there thinking … wtf, really?
Yeah, that’s the really odd part of this episode for me. The writers said the whole explosion and killing off Sun and Jin was to show that the Flock guy really is “evil” and needs to be stopped, but after this episode he comes across looking much better than Jacob (who comes off as a borderline retard who just does whatever his crazy bitch mother tells him to do).
I hope they are still sitting on the big reveal as to why his leaving the island would be such a horrible thing…
Yeah, I don’t know what to make of that episode. I was entertained but uh…
Very strange symbolic meaning everywhere in the episode.
Knives are said to be phallic. Mom gets stuck with a knife, from the rear no less, by her favorite son…and says thanks. They both get laid to rest together(LAID, get it?) as Adam and Eve!
One brother sends the other brother head first(HEAD get it?) into mom’s secret cave of love and light and all that is holy.
The two sons spend time with no woman other than their mom, who tells the more than a little frustrated son he’ll never GET OFF…the island that is.
