No, but the printouts that Ecko took have both Michael’s conversation with Walt and whatever Fenry (Fake Henry) typed to his people before he came back and helped Locke.
jeffd
1562
I think what Demagogue is getting at Houngan is that the tape mentions that “after your 8 hour shift you will return to the bunker…” or something around those lines. They don’t sleep in the Pearl at all.
Of course he’s being a righteous dick about it. Sensitive because people are criticizing his most favoritest show I guess.
Is that what he’s supposedly complaining about? Yeah, right. Along with the new term I’m wishing for, regarding overspecificity as an argumentative fallacy (see the Rap sucks thread) I’m also in the market for a term to define passive-agressive fanboyism.
H.
DrDel
1564
quit the hating… let’s get this thread back on track by talking about Lost and not the playa hatahs.
My question is whether the heroin kept the island healing/nanobot thingy from saving Libby. She’s the only one who’s lasted longer than a few minutes that went on to die later.
H.
Edit: Except, perhaps, the government agent. He lasted a little while.
Nah, Boone and the U.S. Marshal had slow, lingering deaths.
DrDel
1567
what? what do you mean by this? “…lasted longer than a few minutes?”
Boone died pretty quickly after the fall, as I recall. Artz was blown up, Ana shot in the heart, chicky-face shot in the heart, Others beaten to death or shot. Sawyer, on the other hand, was 100% after being shot in the shoulder after a few weeks, island-time, and other wounds have failed to become fatally infected. Everyone except the marshal came out of the crash 100%, or in Locke and the Bernard’s wife’s case, 150%. Jack was apparently ejected from the plane mid-air and landed in the jungle, yet woke up in perfect shape. A good trick for hitting the ground or trees at 200+ mph. Two episodes ago Locke and Bernard’s wife compared notes and acknowledged the healing power of the island, so I think it’s a definite phenomenon.
H.
Oh come on. Jack wasn’t in perfect shape, he had a gash on his back. One guy was missing a leg. They later put the rest of the bodies in the fuselage and set it on fire.
Boone lasted an entire episode, which in show-time is kind of a long death… just like Libby.
So you can criticize the show, but if someone criticizes you, they are labeled as “fanboys” and you are… what again?
— Alan
Good grief, settle down. I’m bringing up points in defense of a theory about the show’s plot, not as a criticism. The only thing I said critical of the show was that the seasons tended to drag in the middle, and the characters were oddly lacking in curiousity.
What on earth are you so upset about?
H.
DrDel
1571
You know I have seen a lot of traumas in my day… and I can tell you that mechanism of injury has no bearing on outcome.
I have seen peeps get thrown hundreds of feet in high speed collisions and walk away and then I have seen other peeps slip on an icey sidewalk and die from a fatal head injury.
There is a lot of dumb luck with respect to type/mechanism of injury and deciding who lives and dies. Either dumb luck or the decision of the Man Above.
Right, but they specifically addressed the healing properties of the island on one of the episodes. I’m not writing the show, so I don’t know one way or the other, but there’s a heck of a lot of evidence that something is keeping the castaways exceptionally healthy.
H.
p.s. And how many survivors of planes splitting apart in midair have you seen? From both halves, no less?
Who said I was upset? I was correcting some obvious fallacies in your statement.
And I was responding to a general, albeit stupid, use of dismissing someone’s ideas or criticisms as “fanboyism”. Then folks like you sit back and say, “Whoa, why are you so angry? I’m so innocent.”
— Alan
There have been some. In WWII some bomber crewmen have been known to survive in sections of aircraft that have been severed in midair or otherwise destroyed; one tailgunner survived falling from bombing altitude in his tail section after it was severed from the rest of the airframe.
That being said, the chances of surviving in a high altitude breakup however are extremely slim. So I’m not sure if the whole crash thing is just a sfx fallacy, misintrepreation of survival scenarios in an aircrash, or something specifically plot-based.
— Alan
It’s electro-magnetic, baby.
Oh, and Boone took FOR-EV-ER to die. At least a whole episode.
How can you forget the whole thing with his leg and the door in the cave? And then the huggin’ and the cryin’, and THEN the dyin’.
I dunno. It looks like a circle to me.
The hatch map offers another possibility. On the right side of the map, one of the stations is labelled “The Pearl?” or something like that. Maybe Eko and Locke weren’t at the center after all. On that note, what about Rousseau’s map from last season, that showed a crater in the middle of the island? That sounds like a better “?” than the Pearl station. Maybe it’s over here, where Eko first looked before he saw the circle.
Ah, you’re right, I forgot about the “save my leg” thing. I just remembered plane falls, Boone all fucked up, not on show any more.
BUT!!!
<stretch>
It’s totally heroin that keeps you from being healed. Boone and Libby, both in contact with heroin, both the only ones to die slowly. HA!
</Stretch>
This is how UFO stories are made.
H.
Hey, it’s my fault for responding to a troll. I actually went back to try and figure out what the hell demagogue was talking about; he hadn’t even posted regarding this episode yet goes after me for misquoting him? What the fuck ever. Sorry if I was perplexed by a phantom post attack thread in broken english with ellipses on a subject I was just speculating about regarding a fictional show’s plot holes. I’ll try not to drop any more babies.
Or maybe it was someone accidentally posting as a sock puppet?
H.
I dunno. Look closely at that picture again, you can see how the upper curve of the question mark is clearly defined, and the part that would come around and make it into a circle is much less so. Then consider too that the hatch was actually under the plane, they had to move it to get into the hatch, which would place the hatch entry right about where the dot would be at the bottom of the question mark in that picture.
Still, it’s LOST. Anything can happen! =)
shift6
1580
I don’t think the Pearl records the cameras. They watched an orientation video, yes, but otherwise all of their notes were in the logbooks, rolled up, and sent through the vacuum-tube. Also, the computer print-out log only recorded things types into the doomsday computer.
Based on this assumption, the best they could do is find someone logging the shooting.
