One thing I noticed. Locke sits on the sand just like he was when the plane crashed. The healing effects of the island are apparently in the sand. That’s why the woman who was dying (can’t remember her name) is always sitting on the beach. Also I think the others are scientists who are trying to prepare for some sort of invasion or creating a society that will survive. Also the others must have a big magnet cannon which must have shot the plane out of the air. I assumed it was just the island, but next week’s preview showed a pile of what I thought were metal canisters or shells.

I saw that and paused and looked really closely. They were thermoses.

haha! thermoses… they are the pneumatic tubes from the Pearl Monitoring station… a whole pile of them.

Guess the observations in Pearl weren’t that important!

Taken from the Lost forums regarding the Others taking Michael’s blood from a paternity test for Walt:


Maury:Are you ready micheal??
Micheal: Ya, i is ready Maury!
Maury:When it comes to Walt…You are NOT the father!
Miss Clue:I TOLD YOU, YOU ******* PIECE OF TRASH!
crowd boos
Micheal:Im a good man. I can take care of Walt!
Maury:When it comes to baby Aaron…You ARE the father!
Miss Clue: OH MAH GAUD, DAIIIIIMN OHHHH SNAPPP!
Micheal:I aint makin no cappachino babies, uh uh, i like em blacks and ashiuns!
Maury: Im quite a fan of the asians as well…


Yeah, and rewatching that whole scene, not just the one shot of the engine blowing up, there’s debris flying everywhere. I remember when someone first posted the animated .gif they’d made of the supposed smoke hitting the engine. It had been a long time since I saw the episode and taken out of context like that as just a snippet, I could see how someone might come up with the theory, but watching the whole scene together again later convinced me it wasn’t supposed to be the smoke at all.

Having read some other Lost forums, it is kind of ridiculous how some people will see a tiny speck of something that can only be seen on an HDTV screen capture in one frame and then roll that into some ridiculous theory that proposes to solve the entire story, making giant leaps of logic all over the place as they go. I guess it is better than having them make up conspiracy theories for real world events, but man… these people can get kind of scary.

I’m still operating under the theory that there was once a fully operational Dharma project with all the little stations running experiments of different sorts, but then something happened. Not the first “something” we saw in the filmstrip in the hatch. I think that was totally faked for the benefit of the people they were putting in the hatch to observe through the pearl. It explains why “Dr. Marvin Candle” looked like he was missing an arm and talked of a horrible accident and the need to keep pushing the numbers every 108 minutes. Total sham. The Pearl video shows the same guy, only LATER, with two good arms and a different name, talking about observing the hatch people and taking notes. I think all that stuff was going on for years before the REAL incident.

That incident involves either genetic work they were doing for the life extension project or for military purposes. Something happened that got out of control, probably a lot more recently than 20+ years ago. Whatever it was trapped the remaining researchers (those that didn’t die immediately) on the island and forced them to try and find a cure for whatever it is that’s happened to them. That’s why they want the kids and some of the adults, because they know or suspect the genetic makeup of those particular people will help them find a cure. Meanwhile, HANSO, the parent organization, knows all about what happened and continues to supply the Others with food and equipment so they can continue the research. The Others pretend to be bedraggled castaways either as part of their ongoing psychological experiments or as a simple cover in the event other actual castaways stumble upon them. For all we know HANSO may even be arranging for “fresh blood” like the LOSTies to be delivered to the island regularly. A plane crashes over the ocean in a storm, who’s going to look for it 2000 miles from where it was supposed to be?

They can be scary, but you know what humanizes them in my eyes? The fact that they all enjoy a refreshing Coca Cola Zero, just like everyone else.

Holy shit, that makes an awful lot of sense.

H.

You of course mean Sprite…
The OFFICIAL drink of “The Lost Experience”

Bingo Dude

Your thoughts are on par with mine … although the whole thing does sound very Half Life / Doom related (ie. science experiments gone bad).

The Others want the “good ones” because they have sustainable DNA traits that will allow them to find a “cure” for the genetic disease that is also known as “the incident”.

Walt is one of “the good ones”.

Why do I have a feeling all of these theories are going to be better then whatever the show creators come up with?

Because they are… here is another theory that claims to be a SPOLIER from an ABC insider:

** SPOILER FROM GO FORUMS**

DO not read on IF you dont want THE majot points FROM the season finale!!

  • DESMOND was married to Penny!!
  • LIBBY was Married to Charles widmore!!
  • Desmond Purchased the boat from Libby!!
  • The WHISPERS are back!!
  • Another LOCKDOWN happens!!
  • The rest of CIVILIZATION has been destroyed!!
  • Sayid IS shot in the chest!!
  • Michael SHOOTS the guards at the new bunker DOOR
  • KELVIN caused the CRASH not the button!!
  • When the timer reaches zero, 4 large PILLERS come out from the GROUND!!
  • INSIDE the door hatch there are 3 PEOPLE connected on a table!!They ARE special like WALT!!
  • KATE does not die!!

the mole was right last week

secondary source
http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic2.php?t=18870

you guys know the drill by now. Someone at IMDB claims to have the insidescoop. I don’t know if it’s just me but I love reading this foilers just to see how close we are to the real truth anyway here it is in full.

Survivors think they are being rescued when they see the boat.
Jack swims out to the boat. Desmond is inside the bunker.

They bring him ashore.

Desmond has tons of booze with him. And a dark secret.
Jack asks him where he was, what he did…
During the 23 days he was gone, Desmond managed to fix his sailboat and sail off the island. Jack asks him what he isn’t telling them.

We get FLASHBACKS of Desmond’s life before the island, and when he first crashed there. Notable points here would be that Desmond was married to a girl named Penny, Libby was married to Charles Widmore, and Desmond borrowed Libby’s boat for 200 grand for his race around the world.
Desmond also made the glow-in-the-dark map in the hatch. And Kelvin is, or was, the twin of a certain Joe Inamn, CIA man from Sayid’s flashbacks. We see Kelvin drag Desmond to the hatch, type in the button, show Desmond the film, and Desmond begins pushing the button as well.

Present day,
At night Jack and Sayid come up with a plan involving Desmond’s boat.
Desmond disappears off into the jungle, heading for the hatch.

The next day, Jack and gang load up to go.
The 5 survivors depart. Charlie tells Hurley good luck.
Michael leads them off.

In the hatch,
Eko continues to push the button.
Locke enters and they talk.
Locke laughs that he still pushes the button.
Eko says he is a man of faith.

Jack Kate Michael Sawyer and Hurley make their way though the jungle.
They begin to pass though what Hurley says is the Dark Territory.
There are MANY fallen trees around them.

They camp for the night. Michael talks about how these people have harmed the survivors, particularly the 5 of them. Killed Shannon Libby, etc. etc.

Locke and Eko are having their discussion in the hatch. Locke argues with Eko on how he thought this place was destinty, that the island built him up just to knock him down, it is all an experiment.
Locke tells him he plans to see what happens when the button reaches zero once and for all. He wants to make sure he is right. Eko doesn’t agree with this.

Desmond reaches the hatch and talks with Locke and Eko inside. He seems pissed.
Asks Locke if he continued to push the button. Locke says yes.
Desmond doesn’t believe that Locke pushed it.

Atop one of the hills, Jack and gang find a big pile of tubes from the Pearl hatch.

Michael tells them they aren’t far now and gotta keep going.
He leads them to the the spot where Zeke and The Others captured him.

THE WHISPERING RETURNS.
They begin to hear whispering.
LOTS of it this time.

Jack yells out that it’s a trap when he spots one of them in the trees.
They all open fire on, it would seem they are surrounded.

There is another lockdown inside the hatch. We don’t know why, but could this be some sort of final test?
Locke is trapped inside the Geodome with Desmond. Eko is locked out.
Eko yells at Locke that he can’t let the timer reach zero, but Locke has other ideas.
The timer is at 107 minutes.

Bernard talks with Claire and the baby, inquiring on what the vaccine is for. Claire explains to him, they bond.

Sayid talks with Jin and Sun. He formulates a plan with Jin. Sun translates for him. Jin understands.

Eko seeks Charlie’s help on the situation in the hatch.
He rushes to the beach and tells him they need to go gather the dynamite Charlie knows where it is.

In the Hatch, Desmond and Locke argue about the button. Locke tells Desmond the button is not real, that it was all an experiment of the ******* Dharma Initiative. Desmond screams at him “Don’t tell me it isn’t real!”
Desmond tells Locke that he sailed away from the island.
He was going to get them all rescued.
But that when he reached land, he discovered
THERE WAS NO HUMANITY left.
Desmond says that the entire world was not there. There was absolutely nothing. He believes that the button is to blame, calling back to what the original Dharma film said. Locke is shaken by this, but thinks Desmond is crazy.
The timer is at 43 minutes by now.

Eko and Charlie gather dynamite from the stash and run to the hatch. Eko plans to blow the blast door. Charlie thinks he’s off his rocker.
Eko believes Desmond that the timer DOES do something when it reaches zero.

Meanwhile
Jack and gang are all been captured by The Others.
They are being led back to the village.

Jin and Sayid have taken Desmond’s boat and followed Rousseau’s map along the shoreline to where Sayid believes could be the location of The Others. They spot the giant rock with the hole in it.

Sayid sneaks up along the rocks with his gun, Jin trails him.
To make it short, they interrupt the party and attack The Others.
A fight ensues.
Sawyer fights Zeke, and rips his fake beard off. Gives a funny quip here.
SAYID IS SHOT, straight in the chest and falls back into the water.

As chaos ensues in the camp, Michael sneaks up to the door in the cliff. There’s a Dharma symbol resembling just a door. One of the guards guarding is shot. Michael enters in and closes it behind him.

Inside this room is the BIG reveal.

Back at the hatch,
The timer is at 23 minutes.

Eko and Charlie enter in with the dynamite. Set it.

Locke and Desmond argue inside as the timer reaches 15 minutes, 8 minutes, 4 minutes. The beeping starts up real loud.

Eko blows the blast doors; Charlie is knocked against the cement wall unconscious.

Eko runs in to push the button before the time runs out.
Locke has knocked Desmond out unconscious with Eko’s Jesus stick.
Locke and Eko come to fists.

Locke beats Eko to the ground. He takes the stick and SMASHES THE COMPUTER.
It’s busted. So now there’s no stopping the timer.

At the Others camp, Jack Kate Sawyer and Hurley seem to have overpowered The Others.

Inside The Door.
Michael finds Walt in here, but is confronted by the FAKE HENRY GALE.
Fenry tells Michael everything about what he is seeing right now, I won’t tell you this as I don’t want to spoil this surprise at least. But it involvers 3 other people, the plane crash, Hanso, and a key. There’s a SINGLE monitoring TV inside this room as well. It’s a monitor for Station 3. Fenry tells Michael that he needs leave the island now if he wants to escape with Walt. The boat is ready for him in a back exit.

The Timer at the hatch reaches ZERO.

Something DOES happen.

What is it?? You’ll see.

And so does Michael and Walt as they escape the island with the boat, leaving everyone else behind.

If you are to believe Desmond, they will find nothing else left.

http://news.aol.com/entertainment/tv/articles/_a/michelle-rodriguez-gets-more-jail-time/20060523070409990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

How is she not a boardmember on the itty-bitty titty commitee?

So, uh, are Locke and Eko dead or what?

Started slow, got really good in the middle, but fell apart by the end. The Lost writers fail to realize that the most important part of a cliffhanger is the cliff.

At least we know what happens you don’t push the button.

I’m not thrilled at starting the next season with the two groups apart.

But I liked it. The two hours went by faster than a normal one-hour.

Actual stuff happened, as opposed to just red herrings, so that’s pretty good compared to most episodes.

I’m so sick of the Others outsmarting “our” guys. We need someone unexpected to turn the tables. Hugo??

Ok,who recognized the interconnecting characters?? Sayid’s CIA guy was in the bunker, but I’m pretty sure we’ve seen a few of Desmond’s other friends before too, but I could not place them…