If you already own the expansions, is there any reason to still buy the quest packs?

If you’re subscribing, no. If not, then yes, you have to buy them to get the content.

The question raised by @Covenant72’s question for me is this: if you buy an expansion, why do you also need to buy similarly named quest packs - I guess I don’t understand what exactly the purchase of the expansion gets you.

They’re basically like content patches in subscriber MMOs…you get them for free, because you’re a sub.

In LOTRO you have access to all the quest packs if you sub, but non-subs have to buy them separately.

You don’t.

If you buy the Moria expansion, all the quests in the Moria Quest Pack are included, along with all of the Moria deeds, several instances and skirmishes. You also get the Warden and Rune Keeper classes and some additional account upgrades (like character slots and trait increases). You can buy Moria as a Quest Pack, but doing so ONLY gives you the quests and deeds, not any of the other stuff.

If you buy the Isengard expansion, you get all the Isengard quests, Isengard instances and trait increases. Again, you can purchase the Quest Pack for Isengard instead of the expansion, but you won’t get the instances and trait increases.

In between Moria and Isengard however are Lothlorien, Mirkwood and Enedwaith. These areas are only available as Quest Packs at 695 TP each. While it is certainly possible to jump from Moria to Isengard just by grinding levels and traveling there, it’s far easier and more entertaining to purchase Lothlorien, Mirkwood and Enedwaith and explore those areas while doing the hundreds of quests and dozens of deeds available. NOTE : Mirkwood used to be an expansion when first released, but they downgraded it to a Quest Pack and it contains everything the expansion used to contain. You can only purchase Mirkwood as a Quest Pack now.

Same thing holds true for Rohan, Helm’s Deep, Mordor and Minas Morgul. All are better to purchase as Expansions because you not only get the quests and deeds, but all the account upgrades like additional character slots, trait increases, mounted combat, new classes and races, etc.

TL;DR - If you buy the Expansion, you get the Quest Pack included along with a lot of other goodies. If you buy the Quest Pack, you only get quests and deeds. There is no need to purchase both. However there are zones between the expansions that are only available as Quest Packs, which is what you should be saving your TP for.

Some areas are quest packs or free to VIP and some are expansions that require purchase and are not free to VIP.

Although certain quest packs…for example Where Dragons Dwell is…a quest pack with an Instance cluster but shows up under the Expansion category in the LOTRO store. Same for Far Anorien, which is a quest pack with the Pelennor Fields instance cluster. These are both free to VIP.

AFAIK there are now 5 hard expansions which are not free to VIP: Moria, Isengard, Rohan, Helms Deep, Mordor, and Mordor 2: Shadows of Minas Morgul.

Everything else is a quest pack.

So if you own all expansion packs and are a subscriber, is there anything else you need to buy, or does that give you everything?

As far as content, you have everything except premium Skirmishes which are sold separately as stand alone on the store.There are still things I would get from the store though.

#1 is the premium wallet by a mile. It stores all tokens/regional currency/etc into the wallet so it takes 0 inventory space. I think I gained over 100 inventory slots when I got it.

I’ve never regretted buying the 250-pack of Mithril Coins when they were on sale. Turns those quests where you have to run between zones for turn-ins into no big deal.

Also, anytime the 90-minute Skill and Slayer Boosts are on sale, I buy a 5-pack.

Oh I like that! I have a bunch of space points laying around too, so I think I might pick that up. Thanks!

Cool. I’m pretty burnt out on LOTRO, but I might check out D&D Online again.

“…While there’s no direct mention of the COVID-19 pandemic in Standing Stone Games’ announcement, it’s hard to ignore the timing…”

I think the intro to the announcement on their forum does reference COVID, in what I think was a terrific RPing way:

I wish it need not have happened in my time,’ said Frodo.
‘So do I,’ said Gandalf, ‘and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.’

I’m still a heavy player and this doesn’t affect me since I’m VIP and have bought all of the expansions, but I’m happy they’ve done this and hopefully it brings more folks into the fold after all of this madness is over.

This is a good time to get addicted to an MMO again. I’m trying the FFXIV trial now, and I’ll redownload LOTRO over the weekend. Maybe some others. Hopefully, one of them will stick.

I need the distraction.

So I feel like I should know this, but did Lord of the Rings Online accounts from the days of Turbine get purged or something? I naturally can’t remember my username, much less my password, so I’ve resorted to using my email to tell LOTRO that, hey, I need to be let in! It tells me it will send an email to the associated account, but it’s been a couple hours and nothing, not even in my spam folder.

I guess my account and character – nooooo! – are lost forever among the transitions the game has made over the years? I kind of hoped all that stuff would be permanently saved somewhere.

-Tom

I dont think any turbine accounts were deleted - annoying question but, are you sure you are using the right email?

If you were on the original QT3 server, Nimrodel, that’s been gone for a long time. Your characters should still exist, but last I checked Standing Stone was having some trouble making transfers work…so until that happens you might be OOL.

I guess it’s been long enough that I could have been using a defunct email. Sheesh, how old is LOTRO?

Googles answer

Whoa. That might be it, Razgon, but I’m pretty sure I’ve been using this email address for well over ten years. Maybe it’s just a lag in their email system? Fingers crossed.

The problem is that I can’t even login to check. I might go bang on it with some possible passwords.

-Tom

It looks like logins are down right now. Technical difficulties popup.

That’s weird…I’m logging in OK.