WWDc keynote today. Supposeably the G5’s will be released. As it is, most of the mac sites are going into fits as it gets close.
So, any Mac heads? I wouldn’t think so, considering the whole games thing.
Ubiquitous MAC/Apple joke:
They still make those things?
What’s a Mac?
It’s a sandwich (Big Mac), or a dinner (Mac and Cheese). Either way you bite it. Much like Mac market share, come to think about it.
Saw it in Palo Alto this morning. The new machines look nice. Very fast as well; would make a good workstation for the types of markets they serve.
If I had Seinfeld money I’d get a mac. They’re great machines. The OS is excellent. The design ethic is commendable.
They are, however, hideously expensive, comparitively underpowered, notoriously unupgradeable, and you quite simply can’t play games on them.
I’m sticking with PCs for the time being. Apple’s not going to wise up anytime soon.
Looking at the improvements in 10.3 and the design and architecture of the G5 machines, I hope they never do. Dell makes the industry more efficient, it doesn’t drive innovation.
The memory and bus architectures were the biggest bottleneck in recent years, they finally managed to deal with that. The G4 clock disparity was a problem, but in the real-world it was the bus that was really killing it in the applications where it counts.
No, you don’t buy a Mac for gaming, but as one who develops on/for/writes on Windows the majority of my waking hours, if I had a choice of a machine to use for day to day use and development, it would be an OS X box.
The G5 machines are not priced to write letters to grandma. $3K as starting base for the dual 2GHz model is very price competitive with dual Xeon workstations. Touches like the built-in digital audio and new high-end QT codec for film work should help Apple keep their creative market and mindshare.
I want one. Can’t justify it though, alas. 
When Apple stops making 10.x OS releases incompatible with each other I might start taking the platform seriously.
When there is competition in Mac hardware and games to play on it I’ll take a look… 'til then, it’s just a fancy toaster to me.
Why did apple announce them now? The press release I read said they would not be available until months from now - promised delivery within the next 12 months.
If you were looking to buy a mac now, why wouldn’t you wait?
One reason as far as I can see to buy a mac, Final Cut. And you know that is the one piece of software they will have ready to run and take advantage of the new macs.
Chet
Chet, it’s shipping in August :) the 12-month thing was just about future processors: IBM commited to their processors reaching 3 gigahertz within the next year (up from a max of 2 right now). That “this is where we’ll be in a year” press release from Apple and IBM is all about addressing the last time Apple had competitive chips: they didn’t budge an inch for about 18 months, and were badly left behind. They’re vowing that history will not repeat itself.
The dual 2gig already outperforms any dual-CPU workstation from any vendor, so a 50% increase in a year could be pretty cool.
Gotta love the fact that the top of the line G5 comes with a value Radeon GPU, the 9600. You’d think for three grand they could bump you up to a 9800…
ciparis
thanks, thats what I get for skimming. August is good. I either by a Mac this fall or don’t see the girlie until next summer. She spends huge amounts of time editing video at the lab.
Chet
-yes wumpus i know. Save it, i said girlie - yeehaw!
I think the proper term these days is “shortie.” Just FYI. Or is it “shorty”?
And that’s the main reason why Apple’s market share has dwindled to under 2 percent. Their machines are way overpriced.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/06/23/apple.new.reut/index.html
Interesting note at the bottom of the article…
“Apple could have a winner on its hands, especially when it introduces a Windows version later this year,” Wolf wrote.
Say again? Apple is putting out a Windows PC based on the G5 chip? Am I reading that right?
Save it, i said girlie - yeehaw!
I think he was referring to iTunes.
Ahhh, ok, that makes more sense.
Looking at the improvements in 10.3 and the design and architecture of the G5 machines, I hope they never do. Dell makes the industry more efficient, it doesn’t drive innovation.
The memory and bus architectures were the biggest bottleneck in recent years, they finally managed to deal with that. The G4 clock disparity was a problem, but in the real-world it was the bus that was really killing it in the applications where it counts.
No, you don’t buy a Mac for gaming, but as one who develops on/for/writes on Windows the majority of my waking hours, if I had a choice of a machine to use for day to day use and development, it would be an OS X box.
The G5 machines are not priced to write letters to grandma. $3K as starting base for the dual 2GHz model is very price competitive with dual Xeon workstations. Touches like the built-in digital audio and new high-end QT codec for film work should help Apple keep their creative market and mindshare.
I want one. Can’t justify it though, alas. [/quote]
You know that Xeon workstations are just Intel’s way of extracting money from suckers, right? You can get almost as fast for half the price.