I volunteer Oregon for comparison as well!

(everyone that isn’t Maine, Hawaii, or Alaska looks bad when compared to Oregon)

Also our “system” is different. Medicare I guess?

Universal healthcare is a big difference, parliamentarian system versus a federal republic is another big difference.

What the heck is happening here. Someone is trying to compare giant cities with huge ports and international airports to far see states?

I said we shouldn’t compare Florida to Canada. The pushback was to compare South Dakota to New York.

I mean, just compare Florida to all the other states. The comparison does not make Florida look like victory.

It’s about the middle of the pack according to the NYT article I posted, haven’t gone through it all but CDC seems to support as well.

Sure; Vermont had a fairly mild first wave, and Florida did not have one* and for both states things went bad in the fall at about the same time but Vermont actually took significant steps including bar closures and a mask mandate. Vermont has less than 1/4 the covid rate rate of Florida, even counting the first wave.

*pending excess mortality studies

Parliaments are better at covid

Vermont did a great job, no doubt! I believe they are ranked near the bottom of deaths if not at the bottom.

If there is a comparison of parliamentarian democracies with and without universal healthcare, that would be pretty interesting to separate those factors.

But couldn’t prevent interstate travel, while Canada could close their borders. Florida got to have vacationers come to their beaches, get Covid and go home to die where the stats won’t be counted against FL.

A win for everyone!

Absolutely the movement of people, particularly in a tourist/migration state like Florida, deserves closer attention.

If only there were other places in the developed world that didn’t have universal healthcare of some kind.

Ignore the Florida stats. DeSantis has fucked us. If anything take whatever you see and double it.

Yeah, we’re saying all this based of numbers we knew they were fudging. Which… doesn’t help FL’s case.

My boss decided to go to Florida with his and another family this week for vacation.

Does he also eat badly prepared fugu? Just asking.

There was another seafood fraud article by the Guardian a few days ago, it is an overview of seafood fraud globally

In just New York itself there’s been several tests that showed at least 25%+ mislabeled species, some even done by high school students. This is a worldwide problem

Boring introduction out of the way, one of the article’s amusing points is they found mislabeled fugu fish fillets sold in China as something else. (search for pufferfish)

fucking NY Times

spoiler for length

Summary

Eagerly joining forces with partisan Republicans, the Washington Post over the weekend uncorked a doomsday write-up about the surge of young migrants currently overwhelming U.S. facilities along the Southern Border. Laying all of the blame for the three-decade problem directly at the feet of the new, two-month-old Democratic administration, the Post article echoed every conceivable GOP talking point.

What the piece failed to do was include crucial context for a complicated policy puzzle, and to delve deeply into whether Trump spent four years deliberately creating a border crisis that Biden is now trying to fix.

The Post also included no context for how Biden’s brand new administration has been addressing border crossings while at the same dealing with the aftermath of a deadly insurrection, an impeachment trial, and passing the largest social spending bill in U.S. history. All in less than 60 days.

The Post is hardly alone in manically hyping the border story, at the behest of the GOP. In a highly unusual move, ABC This Week staged its entire Sunday program from the border, in order to focus on the “emerging crisis for the Biden administration.”

On Saturday night, Post reporters fanned out on Twitter to tout their breathless story, which Republicans quickly seized upon. “‘No end in sight: Inside the Biden administration’s failure to contain the border surge,” posted Josh Dawsey of the Post . Even more frantic was the tweet from colleague Nick Miroff: “How the Biden admin’s poor planning, botched messaging, rush to repudiate Trump and a broken asylum system unleashed the biggest border surge in 20 years, with “no end in sight””

Fact: This is not currently the “biggest border surge in 20 years.” It’s not even close.

The Post article, as Julian Castro advisor Sawyer Hackett noted, was “pure hot garbage, beginning to end.”