CraigM
3347
I volunteer Oregon for comparison as well!
(everyone that isn’t Maine, Hawaii, or Alaska looks bad when compared to Oregon)
Also our “system” is different. Medicare I guess?
RayRayK
3349
Universal healthcare is a big difference, parliamentarian system versus a federal republic is another big difference.
Nesrie
3350
What the heck is happening here. Someone is trying to compare giant cities with huge ports and international airports to far see states?
RayRayK
3351
I said we shouldn’t compare Florida to Canada. The pushback was to compare South Dakota to New York.
I mean, just compare Florida to all the other states. The comparison does not make Florida look like victory.
RayRayK
3353
It’s about the middle of the pack according to the NYT article I posted, haven’t gone through it all but CDC seems to support as well.
Sure; Vermont had a fairly mild first wave, and Florida did not have one* and for both states things went bad in the fall at about the same time but Vermont actually took significant steps including bar closures and a mask mandate. Vermont has less than 1/4 the covid rate rate of Florida, even counting the first wave.
*pending excess mortality studies
Parliaments are better at covid
RayRayK
3356
Vermont did a great job, no doubt! I believe they are ranked near the bottom of deaths if not at the bottom.
If there is a comparison of parliamentarian democracies with and without universal healthcare, that would be pretty interesting to separate those factors.
But couldn’t prevent interstate travel, while Canada could close their borders. Florida got to have vacationers come to their beaches, get Covid and go home to die where the stats won’t be counted against FL.
A win for everyone!
RayRayK
3358
Absolutely the movement of people, particularly in a tourist/migration state like Florida, deserves closer attention.
If only there were other places in the developed world that didn’t have universal healthcare of some kind.
RichVR
3360
Ignore the Florida stats. DeSantis has fucked us. If anything take whatever you see and double it.
ShivaX
3361
Yeah, we’re saying all this based of numbers we knew they were fudging. Which… doesn’t help FL’s case.
My boss decided to go to Florida with his and another family this week for vacation.
RichVR
3363
Does he also eat badly prepared fugu? Just asking.
There was another seafood fraud article by the Guardian a few days ago, it is an overview of seafood fraud globally
In just New York itself there’s been several tests that showed at least 25%+ mislabeled species, some even done by high school students. This is a worldwide problem
Boring introduction out of the way, one of the article’s amusing points is they found mislabeled fugu fish fillets sold in China as something else. (search for pufferfish)