Sorry to hear that.

I think some people might need to learn about a thing called portion control.

I’m thinking it’s actually really cheap to put calories in your kids if they’re each eating multiple boxes of cereal and a gallon of milk every week. That may already be enough to cover their calories. These people are complaining but they may be spending pennies on the dollar compared to many families. Lol

I’m surprised at how many adults these days still eat breakfast cereal. Is this really a thing? It used to be a kid thing, something you had before school because your mom was too lazy to cook oatmeal, or cream of wheat/rice, or maybe scrambled eggs, if you were lucky. Almost all the people I work with eat sugary cereal all the time ( “a bowl every night before bed, then one in the morning”), they happily announce when questioned), and being a late boomer (1963), I can’t remember any adults eating cereal when I was kid.

I think sometime in the past (late '80’s: “The American lifestyle is not up for negotiations!”) our maturity level became stunted. Cartoons, comic books (graphic novels) video games (guilty), breakfast cereal, LEGOS©, T-shirt wearing, baseball caps (backwards for dude-bros), cookie-dough ice-cream, collectable action-figures (dolls), all became staples for adults, not just kids. We never grew out of our childhood or fully grew up. Not that their is anything wrong with any of that, but there kind of is. We’ve been brain-washed by an industry that has turned us into consumers of junk for our bodies and minds.

Now excuse me and my rantings as I step down off my milk crate and don my flame-proof p.j.'s. My best pals, Biff and Bud, are waiting for me for our Sunday game of electric football. (Baltimore Colts vs Houston Oilers).

Chuck

So everything was better in the good old days and the kids of today are ruining everything?

Love how defensive this response is.

Part of the obesity epidemic is down to these type of food choices, and eating frequency. Cereals are basically sugar, some more obviously than others. Few redeeming features.

Also probably true. There lacks a transition from child to adulthood now, in the west anyway. There are things like initiation ceremonies, etc, but not so much in industrialised societies.

Ver y true, by providing very low resistance paths, meaning we end up going along these because it is simply easier.

In the case of food, it is actually challenging to ensure you get an actually balanced, mostly non processed diet and combine that with the right exercises at the right time and in the right amount.

Far easier to just watch something on TV when you are tired.

How does it feel to be a literal meme?

Yes.

Also given historical notions about, well, everything any notion of ‘things used to be better at ’ are laughable. 100 years ago a form of family entertainment was taking a picnic at the local lynching spot. Maybe they should have played more games as adults instead.

No, you’re wrong. Everything used to be awesome and now it’s terrible because adults eat cookie dough ice cream. It’s science, you just can’t argue with it.

Assumes facts not in evidence

To begin, BMI is terrible and mostly useless, and the primary thing used to diagnose obesity.

And only now do we finally see the folly of all those “Never Grow Old!” inspirational posters and whatnot.

I’ve actually yelled at kids to get off a neighbor’s lawn. It had snowed (rare around here) and some kids were bullying another kid by holding him face-down in the snow. I yelled at them, and told them to “play nice”, and the kid getting shoved in the snow got up and grumbled something obscene (I imagine; couldn’t hear him well with my old man ears) at me.

In today’s edition of Fuck the NY Times:

Ms. Neff, who owns a hardware store adorned with images of Mr. Trump as Rambo and the Terminator, was in Washington on Jan. 6 to support the former president — but refused to go into further detail. Citing false evidence, she called the coronavirus vaccine a “poison” and said she worried that Democrats were planning extermination camps of Mr. Trump’s supporters.

Karen Williams, a Bath County resident who manages vacation rentals, said she resented the current Virginia governor, Ralph Northam, a Democrat, for keeping schools shut down during the pandemic, embracing progressive policies focused on race and removing Confederate statues and monuments. She called this an example of critical race theory, a graduate-level academic framework that has become shorthand for a contentious debate on how to teach race and racism in schools.

White children “are no longer allowed to be kids, we’re treating them like little monsters,” Ms. Williams said.

Mr. Hamilton, a veteran of the Vietnam War, said his vote for Mr. Youngkin was really a proxy vote for Mr. Trump. Of President Biden, he said, “the best thing that can happen is to get him and that woman out of there.”

John Wright, a 68-year-old retiree, said he listened only to pro-Trump programming.

“I don’t care if the media said the moon was full of cheese, and there was an astronaut who brought back some cheese,” Mr. Wright said. “If the media said it, I won’t believe it.”

I mean, why didn’t McAuliffe win these votes? These are reachable moderates!

I was not referring to BMI.

I too think BMI is overly simplistic.

I was referring to fat as a % of body size, and you need not look far to see some very unhealthy people.

Bad nourishment is a very real problem in the industrialised countries, whereas in less well developed countries the problem is more mal nourishment.

There is plenty of food in, for example, the UK, and most of it is, for lack of a better word, pretty shit -here meaning not good for the body.

Now alot of this stuff is goddamed tasty though. I still have a weakness for things like KFC etc, which even as you bite into that delicious crunchiness, you know it is not doing you any favours.

“Junk” food (e.g. KFC) is the most obvious culprit (most visible, easiest to complain about, and to a degree easiest to combat on a personal level - i.e. just don’t go there!) but there is, imho (because I haven’t measured it!) a bigger problem in the form of contaminated food chains.

Perhaps contaminated is the wrong word, as that means things like sewage contaminating a swimming pool, but the food chain is massively industrialised, which means things like over use of fertiliser, denuding of the soil, force feeding of animals and mass production of animals. Chickens are the best (worst?) example because they can grow very quickly and can be intensely reared on small spaces, e.g. battery farms in barns, much quicker and easier than, says, ducks or geese for example (and yes, I am aware of the foie gras controversy, but I am referring to scale here) and thus, chicken in the supermarket is incredibly cheap, and, again, path of least resistance (plus marketing, plus a general decline in know how regarding produce) means that cheap chicken (or pork, or beef etc) sells.

That’s surely not a controversial statement.

There was an earlier conversation somewhere on this forum where people were comparing the price of buying McDonald’s every day versus making it yourself.

Now the pricwe of such cheap food is a lack of quality, by which I measn nutritional density.

By way of anecdata, when I was a child, in Kenya, industrial scale food production wasn’t really a thing, and stuff like breakfast cereal was a treat.

WE got all our meat from a Butcher we walked to about 2 or 3 miles away. Our milk was from a neighbours cow, and our veggies from a stall near the neighbour.

WE also didn’t have alot of food, because I remember that stuff being expensive.

I knew 2 fat people at school as a child and yes they were bullied mercilessly, but so was I, and so were most people, shrugs.

Nowadays, nearly every kid I see in school, in England, is pudgy at the least, and excess fat is the new normal.

And I don’t see how that can be a good thing for a nation.

Now fat shaming is not the solution, the solution, imho, is to target those paths of least resistance.

Democrats just need to Republican harder.

I do almost every morning FWIW.

A funny update on Milkgate: only 3 people in that household are children under 18

Supporting Six Adult Children Hard on Parents!

News at 11.

Jesus wept.

Plus, those 6 adult children almost certainly got stimulus checks from the evil milk-price-gouging socialists. That would buy a lot of milk.