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Memo on abortion and liberal bias by Los Angeles Times Editor John Carroll, May 22, 2003

To: SectionEds
Subject: Credibility/abortion

I’m concerned about the perception—and the occasional reality—that the Times is a liberal, “politically correct” newspaper. Generally speaking, this is an inaccurate view, but occasionally we prove our critics right. We did so today with the front-page story on the bill in Texas that would require abortion doctors to counsel patients that they may be risking breast cancer.

The apparent bias of the writer and/or the desk reveals itself in the third paragraph, which characterizes such bills in Texas and elsewhere as requiring “so-called counseling of patients.” I don’t think people on the anti-abortion side would consider it “so-called,” a phrase that is loaded with derision.

The story makes a strong case that the link between abortion and breast cancer is widely discounted among researchers, but I wondered as I read it whether somewhere there might exist some credible scientist who believes in it.

Such a person makes no appearance in the story’s lengthy passage about the scientific issue. We do quote one of the sponsors of the bill, noting that he “has a professional background in property management.” Seldom will you read a cheaper shot than this. Why, if this is germane, wouldn’t we point to legislators on the other side who are similarly bereft of scientific credentials?

It is not until the last three paragraphs of the story that we finally surface a professor of biology and endocrinology who believes the abortion/cancer connection is valid. But do we quote him as to why he believes this? No. We quote his political views.

Apparently the scientific argument for the anti-abortion side is so absurd that we don’t need to waste our readers’ time with it.

The reason I’m sending this note to all section editors is that I want everyone to understand how serious I am about purging all political bias from our coverage. We may happen to live in a political atmosphere that is suffused with liberal values (and is unreflective of the nation as a whole), but we are not going to push a liberal agenda in the news pages of the Times.

I’m no expert on abortion, but I know enough to believe that it presents a profound philosophical, religious and scientific question, and I respect people on both sides of the debate. A newspaper that is intelligent and fair-minded will do the same.

Let me know if you’d like to discuss this.

John

A reply to the Pew tweet explaining the phenomena:

This came up in the abortion thread:

So, the suggestion was that the Glenn Kessel was somehow a right wing stooge, but that seems somewhat absurd. I mean, I guess that some folks on the far left don’t like the WaPo fact checking them, just like the crackpots on the far right don’t like getting fact checked either, but that’s not really an indication of poor fact checking.

So the case here involved this piece:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/10/fact-checking-president-trumps-usa-today-op-ed-medicare-for-all/

Now, it’s worth noting here that this piece is in no way at all somehow pro trump, or pro right wing. Indeed, its opening paragraph is this:

President Trump wrote an opinion article for USA Today on Oct. 10 regarding proposals to expand Medicare to all Americans — known as Medicare-for-All — in which almost every sentence contained a misleading statement or a falsehood.

So I guess the issue was taken with the next paragraph, which DoubleG quoted, here:

Many of these are claims we have already debunked. Presumably, the president is aware of our fact checks — he even links to two — but chose to ignore the facts in service of a campaign-style op-ed. Medicare-for-All is a complex subject, and serious questions could be raised about the cost and how a transition from today’s health-care system would be financed. Trump correctly notes that studies have estimated that the program — under the version promoted by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) — would add $32.6 trillion in costs to the federal government over 10 years. (He doesn’t mention that costs in theory would go down for individuals, state governments and others, so overall national health expenditures may not increase and could even decrease.)

The statement at issue is apparently where it said that Trump correctly stated that the study had said M4A would add 32.6T in costs. DoubleG took issue with this, in that this is based on the same study that Sanders had referenced, and which WaPo had given him a rating of mostly false on.

DoubleG suggested this:

Like he once accidentally fact checked the same study twice, but gave “3 Pinnochios” to Bernie Sanders when he cited it and called Trump “correct” when he cited the same thing several months later.

This phrasing suggests that WaPo gave Sanders a false rating on a statement, and then later gave Trump a true rating on it.

That’s not at all what happened. The reason that WaPo had given him that rating, was because he had ignored the MAIN finding of that report, which was the fact that Trump had cited.

And in both cases, when you read the (fairly lengthy) pieces, the WaPo is quite even handed. Even while rating Sanders’ statement as “mostly false”, they absolutely did present the suggestion that the overall expenditure by America on healthcare MIGHT go down. And indeed, they then brought up that part of the argument again, as something that Trump left out.

The WaPo is really hated… by trash news outlets. Extremists on both sides, who say false things, do not like the WaPo. But on balance, the WaPo is generally one of the best sources of investigative journalism in the world, and they’re generally pretty balanced in their takes on things (most evaluations show them as having a slight leftward bias).

I feel like we’d be doing ourselves a disservice by falling prey to the same kind of intellectual cloture where we reject any source of information that doesn’t support our existing worldview as being false or biased. That’s what has rotted the brains of Trump supporters. There is definitely an undercurrent I’m seeing here, in this very forum, where mainstream media, including sources like WaPo, the NYT, CNN, etc. are being rejected, and it’s very similar to what I saw build up and eventually overflow in the GOP. It’s not good.

Some background on this study. It was a hit piece by a right wing think tank to produce a scarily large cost for medicare for all, for the purpose of discrediting universal healthcare. That’s the 32.6 trillion figure.

But they fucked up. The $32.6 trillion, when compared to projected overall healthcare spending, is actually $2 trillion less than the country was projected to spend on healthcare without medicare for all. The study inadvertently showed that switching to universal healthcare saves the nation money overall, and the Sanders campaign started promoting it.

That’s why Kessler includes this statement, he’s saying that we should accept the author’s editorial intention for how the data should be used (“this is expensive”) rather than one he doesn’t want used (“this is less expensive than the alternative”).

At the Fact Checker, we rely heavily on how a study’s author says the data should be presented.

And you didn’t comment on the other example from that thread about Kessler being opinionated:

He’s classifying this factually correct statement as false because of his opinion that “millions” is not a big number. This isn’t fact checking, it’s editorial.

Fact checking politicians’ statements is always going to be some amount of editorializing, because the subject matters being commented on are not black and white. A large part of politicians’ statements involve them making misleading statements which are not strictly false, but rather lies of omission.

I would say that particular one? It’s a summary of a larger article. Ultimately, in that article he pointed out that the attempt to make the economy sound bad at that point in time, was misleading… It was. That was in 2019, before covid. The economy was good then. I think the suggestion that or economy was so bad that tons of Americans were writing multiple jobs just to survive, was indeed overstating the problem.

But that aside, you suggested that Kessler was some kind of right wing talking head. I don’t think that’s accurate.

He certainly fact checked Bernie Sanders a bunch… Because Bernie Sanders says a lot of bullshit that isn’t true.

But Kessler likewise fact checks folks on the right, like the previous example of Trump where Kessler’s opening paragraph essentially said, “every single sentence Trump said was false,” and then went through tearing apart everything he said.

Now, Trump’s kind of special in his ability to lie, but the fact checking department of the WaPo has in no way been slanted to the right. The Right wing absolutely hates them, because they have called out the GOP on so much bullshit.

Kessler holds two Pulitzer prizes from when he worked for Newsday. He’s not some rando hack.

Maybe he might miss the mark sometimes. And sometimes, politicians you are fans of are going to lie and called on it. But to suggest that WaPo’s fact checking while Kessler has been writing there has been bad? Or right leaning? No man, I don’t think so.

If Kessler has a weakness, I think that is that he goes into situations with the intention of finding what’s wrong… It it’s minor, like that statement by Sanders, or some absurd lie by Trump, he’s going to call it either way.

Even in a good economy there are many people who are struggling. Just because the DOW is doing gangbusters doesn’t mean there aren’t millions struggling to get by.

Which is what Bernie was saying. Even in good times millions are struggling to get by through no fault if their own, but due to how predatory late stage capitalism is.

That statement is factually true. Millions of people were working multiple jobs just to get by. It doesn’t fucking matter if one of those is only part time, and it doesn’t fucking matter if its only a small 5% of the workforce.

It is literally true that there were millions of people forced into two or more jobs to make ends meet.

Period.

You are free to agree with Bernie, I’m not surprised, but the context of that particular article was about the statements of the different Democratic candidates trying to protest the string economy of 2019, as weak. It just wasn’t. Not simply because of the stock market. It was a legitimately strong economy. The unemployment rate sight now is similarly super low… And yet there are still millions of people working multiple jobs. Pretty sure that’s always going to be the case.

I mean, you could argue that the economy is always, inherently bad? Ok I guess.

Also, Kessler did rate Sanders’ statement there as being the most accurate of all the statements.

But really, this is more about the overall quality of the WaPo, which isn’t really capable of being judged on the basis of a single 3 sentence summary of a single analysis piece.

You’re giving a lot of opinions here! They have no place in a fact check.

This conversation started because Kessler, without evidence, cast doubt on a horrible (and it turns out true) story of a consequence of the right’s assault on abortion. He pushes his opinion a lot, like with the examples here.

You’re putting forward a narrative about the left and the forum rejecting mainstream sources, but this has just been about one columnist who shouldn’t have the title “fact checker”.

I just don’t think you have a strong argument for such an opinion.

I’m with you, my friend, but you’re pushing a boulder uphill.

The only winning move is not to play.

Anyone who doubts that mainstream US media has a deeply dysfunctional relationship with the current Republican party and its voters should consider what WaPo has deemed fit to put in its magazine section this week. It’s something called " Sarah Palin Has Long Been Ridiculed. I Wanted to Tell a Different Story: A reconsideration of the narrative that surrounds her as she runs for Congress" by T.A. Frank. (No link, for reasons that will become apparent.)

It starts out with Frank (who normally writes for The Atlantic and was, long ago, the author of “What’s the Matter with Kansas?”) as the intrepid reporter looking for a scoop. Palin is scheduled to appear at a candidate forum in a tiny remote town in Alaska accessible only by air. Frank resolves to make the “difficult and expensive” trip there to try to get an interview with Palin, who zealously avoids hard news media these days.

While there, he treats us to the usual cliches of small town political reporting. Gosh, broadband is hard to come by in rural areas! He had to share a taxi! And yes, he predictably scouts out the hotel restaurant for insights as to what the quaint locals think. (Of course, he’s there for a political forum, so they’re all politicians.) But Palin doesn’t show. When he tries to get in touch with her, neither she nor anyone in her inner circle will talk to him.

We’re then treated to several self-pitying paragraphs where he complains at length about how no one will talk to him, culminating in an eye-poppingly over-the-top metaphor where he compares himself to “a new prison warden who vows to set a kinder tone only to find himself stabbed in the leg with a shiv made from a paper plate.” (Because clearly refusing to talk to him is equivalent to an act of violence.)

So Frank fails in his attempts at conventional reporting, which is to say finding any new facts or interest and importance. But that doesn’t stop him. Because, as it turns out, he doesn’t actually want to do conventional reporting. No, his mission is something else altogether:

“I spent some time digging for the 573rd piece of dirt on Palin, because we all know it’s out there — but my heart wasn’t in it. In reporting terms, there is nothing new and bad left to say about her. Even if it turns out she’s been running, say, a Ponzi scheme involving caribou antlers, it’s all footnotes, something to be added to a long-standing negative narrative half the country will embrace or reject. I instead resolved to fight my own mental shortcuts — such as viewing her moneymaking pursuits as cynical — and come up with the most generous theories of Palin that I could, given the facts on hand. It’s something we ought to be doing more of these days, anyway, if we’re to feel our way back to getting along.”

Sure, there might be new facts to report about Palin. But, specifically because they would be bad things, Frank isn’t interested. His role - in his mind, everyone’s role - isn’t to critique or present new facts. Our proper role is, in Frank’s mind, to get on our knees, feel humility in our hearts, and bow down.

It isn’t that Frank actually approves of Palin, mind you. As he documents at length, she’s wildly unreliable, flaking out on things much more important than a small town debate (like being governor of Alaska.) She has “betrayed followers and supporters,” she spouts " evasive and incoherent policy positions," and “appalling statements.” She’s “prickly,” “hazy,” and her understanding of national and international affairs is “dangerously inadequate.” And yet, he is unshakable in his advocacy for cutting her every possible break, giving her the benefit of every possible doubt, from now until the end of time.

There’s a weird, delusional section where he tries to improve our image of Palin by explaining that, as bad as Palin is, she at least wasn’t as bad as Trump. Sure, he argues, she’s awful - but she’s only a 3 or 4 on the awful scale compared to Trump’s 10.

What this achronological approach doesn’t take into account is the role Palin played in shifting the Overton window back in the day, making Trump possible to begin with. Once the media realized a totally incompetent candidate got lots of eyeballs on their stories, Trump-as-candidate was all but assured. In a very real sense, Palin shaped the GOP into what it is today.

(Frank begrudgingly admits the point, but huffs that there were other Trump precursors. Still, his suggestion that Palin was no worse for America than Pat Buchanan hardly paints her in a positive light.)

(There’s another delusional thread where he appears to suggest that none of Palin’s more positive qualities - mom to many, lots of friends locally, initially popular politician etc. - has ever been given consideration in the media. Which is just wrong: there was many a puff piece about her back in the day. What happened is those puff pieces got drowned out by negative coverage due to Palin’s own actions. If there’s ever a politician who was done in by her own limitations it’s Palin, but for some reason we’re supposed to bend over backwards to ignore her own-goals and only linger on positive things.)

But none of Palin’s many, many very real and relevant flaws matters. For whatever completely unexplained reason, what matters to Frank is his belief that his role - everyone’s role - is to to accommodate her. There’s never so much of a hint that Palin is the one who needs to change her ways, learn about the world, improve herself. Instead, Frank suggests that the rest of us need to apologize for the fact we were so very mean to her back during her VP run, merely because her understanding of the world was “dangerously inadequate.”

This is what Frank imagines to be his feel-good conclusion to this stirring essay:

“[W]e don’t hate one another because we have a different sense of facts. We have a different sense of facts because we hate one another. Chip away at the distrust and animosity, and facts can be pooled once more. If we can tell a human story of Sarah Palin, maybe people can wish her victory or defeat instead of vengeful triumph or destruction. Maybe we can do that for all sorts of people, even when our gut hates the idea.”

Again, no suggestion that Sarah Palin needs to change even the slightest bit. You, on the other hand, do. You must come to love Sarah Palin.

Frank’s hero is clearly Winston Smith in 1984. Mind you, not the Winston Smith who reacts to a world growing ever darker by resisting. No, who he wants us to emulate is the Winston Smith on the last page of the book.

WaPo has at least enough decency not to print this as reporting, calling it “perspective” instead. But one wonders why they feel the need to print this sort of thing at all. Reading this only made me think less of both Frank for writing it and the paper for publishing it

“What’s the Matter With Frank?”

Obligatory:

Is he arguing that sweatshops, while terrible to westerners, are better than the alternatives for those people?

That’s likely true, right?

It’s kind of a rehash of the argument for slavery, though, isn’t it? So probably there is something wrong with that argument?

I don’t think that slaves are better off than they were when they weren’t enslaved. The slaves didn’t voluntarily choose to be slaves.