Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle


#90

He means it should show you the firing range from the square you’re highlighting. It only shows the range from the highlighted character’s current square.


#91

How could it know which enemy you want that info for?


#92

Whichever one you’re locked to


#93

Right, so when I move my character, there is a range of fire that I have from the end of the move. I have already miscalculated whether I can reach my target and left myself without a target. You can’t see this the way it works now.

In Fire Emblem, you can see blue squares for movement but also red squares beyond those for the weapon range. That’s what’s missing.


#94

Ah, that makes sense.

Honestly all I need is to rewind and retake my move or even entire turn, Tactics Ogre style. I wish more strategy games did this.


#95

Sorry, I’m still not getting it. When you have the move cursor active, there are indicators that show the hit chance for each enemy from that location (0%, 50%, 100%, no line of sight, not in range). Are there really that many cases where this is not sufficient, and you need to also know which empty squares would be in range?

The only thing is that you only get this info for the primary weapon, but it seems like you’d have the same problem with the solution you propose.


#96

Aye, but that UI element is for weapons only. There’s no easy way of knowing whether your hero ability will reach your allies from a new position until you’re at that position so you have to count squares beforehand. It’s rarely an issue but it’s an annoying limitation/oversight in certain situations and has caught me out a few times when I’ve miscounted.

I’m in agreement with @DaveLong though, when you’re plotting your move you should be able to switch to Tacticam and cycle the range of your abilities from your planned new position (or anywhere you can reach, really) and not just from where you currently are.

For example, I plan to move Rabbid Peach over to my team but I don’t know whether her heal ability will reach them so I plot my movement to a square nearby then hit X to bring up the Tacticam. The pointer snaps to the square Rabbid Peach is going to move to and I can use L and R to cycle her abilities (and weapons) as usual. That’s how I’d like it to be.

For general weapon use though, whether you can hit or not is shown on the UI when you’re choosing which square to move to. That’s pretty elegant, I’ve got to say. I think the only limitation is with explosive secondary weapons which will show a 100% hit chance when your primary might not be able to reach. This can be misleading at times if you don’t pay attention to the little icon next to the percentage.


#97

Yup, this is the gist of it. That’s what is missing.

I think it sort of stumbles around the issue by showing the percentages when you’re judging a move but I think it’s also probably a little less intuitive than it should be. I mean, it’s not like tactical games haven’t been around for years now. There are good solutions in many of them. @Scott_Lufkin brings up another one, although a rewind arguably changes the nature of the game in ways a designer may not want to allow.

I don’t want to sound like it’s a gamebreaker or anything as I’m sure someone reading this is probably like “FUCK MARIO + RABBIDS RIGHT IN THE EYE!” after reading my posts. It’s clunky and it has cost me enough that I think it should be addressed in a sequel if that ever happens, but it’s not ruining my enjoyment of a great game.


#98

I was so used to this from playing Disgaea on the Switch that it completely baffled me the first few times I wanted to do so in Mario Rabbids. I moved Mario one square too few, leaving him completely open, then spent a full minute fiddling with the controls trying to figure out which was the Undo button. I think I just restarted the mission at that point.


#99

I occasionally nudged the thumbstick a smidgen too much just before hitting the A button and it often screwed my move up. It was annoying but I think it’s a testament to Mario + Rabbids that you’re rarely 100% stuffed; there’s almost always a way out if you find yourself in a pickle (no seriously, the hero movement and synergies give you so many options). I know that’s beside the point, and I’d welcome a rewind/undo feature for these kinds of fumbles too, but it’s worth mentioning because even if you do make the odd mistake, the game doesn’t brutally punish you for it.


#100

I’ll be honest, moving to the wrong place and hitting A was something that happened to me nearly every battle by the end of the game, but wasn’t a problem for the first… 75% of it or so. No idea why. I often wanted to do the Tactics Ogre thing of undoing the movement, more than rewinding the entire turn. I think that’s all this needs, let me move, and then undo my move (but not actions) if I don’t like where I ended up.


#101

Does the game have anything similar to overwatch or reaction shots that might make it possible to cheat using such a feature? Because that would be the best reason not to.


#102

It does, and that’s a good point.


#103

Yup… overwatch/reaction shots are in there and that pretty much invalidates the idea of Undo.

I think it’s just an information thing. Let me see what I can hit after I move before I move. :)

As noted by @geggis, you can often survive your mistakes. I do like that a lot.


#104

Doesn’t Invisible Inc. have reaction shots though, and still allows turn rewinds? It’s been a while since I played it.


#105

40 bucks on Eshop through Monday as part of Ubisoft sale. Very tempting. Or you can get the gold edition for 60 with the season pass. Hmm…


#106

Ooh, nice. I was kicking myself for missing the $30 Black Friday deal, but this is almost as good.

Anyone played this multiplayer? Seems like it could make a great introduction to tactics games if it’s reasonably full-featured and not just a throwaway.

And how are the new weapons from the DLC handled? I like the idea of getting another set of levels from the season pass, but hate when games dump a bunch of overpowered promo weapons on you from the get-go and throw off their own balance.


#107

The season pass is $20 so the bundle doesn’t save you any money. Just wait for all the dlc to come out first to make sure it’s good and then it’ll probably be discounted too in the future.


#108

Buying anything the day before Xenoblade Chronicles 2 releases? Crazy! :)


#109

That’s what I was thinking, too.

@Profanicus which is fine, since I have no intention of buying it