Marriage postmortem

Rather than a perfect match (no offence to EpicBoy), I think it’s better to find a compatible match. My wife, for example, has different yet compatible musical tastes - she listens to lots of old-old-old school country (Louvin Brothers especially), Neko Case, New Pornographers, and garage rock. My tastes run more towards the weirdo/loud end of things (Melvins, Mastodon, post-rock - you know, stoner music). We meet on things like The Pixies and Tom Waits.

It’s awesome, because I like all of the stuff she listens to but it’s not stuff I would ever buy for myself, and ditto for her.

The other fun thing about my marriage is that my wife never really watched movies before she met me. She had a crappy little 13" TV growing up, which made it painful to watch anything really, so she never got into the habit of watching older stuff. So, after we got married, I started bringing home lots of different things - musicals, film noir, Fellini - to see what she liked and what she didn’t. We ended up getting into a huge film noir kick, and she discovered that Preston Sturges is God. It was great for me, because it let me rediscover a bunch of movies and directors I hadn’t watched in far, far too long.

I’m not communicating well today. I don’t want to give the impression that my wife and I are identical twins or something. We have different tastes in music, movies, hobbies, etc. But we mesh well enough that we can compromise for the other person without it being a problem.

I guess what madkevin said is closer to what I meant. We are perfectly compatible rather than perfectly matched.

My in-laws don’t fight. I’ve never seen them have a cross word, and no one has ever seen them fight. You can have marriages like that. It’s really just being considerate, making it a point to not get angry, and having the decision-making in the marriage resolve itself well. In their case, the wife makes most of the decisions, but they seem to always talk about things so I don’t think the husband feels like things are shoehorned down his throat. He had his business career too, where he was in charge of stuff, so on the home front I think he was content to defer to her about most things.

Sounds like my wife and I for the first five years of apartment living, going to concerts, playing cards, drinking. We never played any games with regards to communication and everything was on the table from Day one…then came a house, two kids, job stagnation, goals for career paths changed for me and not for her, money issues…

I am not saying you cannot have the relationship you currently have forever. However, that would mean all of the beliefs, ideals, and goals you have now will have to remain relatively constant for the next 60 years.

I remember getting on to, Supertanker I think it was, after the birth of my first child. He had like 5 kids and he and his wife said if they could do it over again they would only have two and they would have been much more content. I could not fathom him saying that at the time. I was naive. I understand now. Issues arise that have cumulative effects and the sum of the problems that arise seem to have a larger impact on the whole as opposed to the singular problems looked at individually.

Absolutely. I have no illusions that things might change in the future. I hope they don’t because I love where we are at and since we’ve removed children from the picture - I’m hoping.

I know there are people that make it work and are happy and live long and prosper. :) We barely mentioned children for the first 5 years. Now, I can honestly say, our 6 and one year old are the best things that have come from our marriage and are simultaneously the 2 things that have made it the most diffilcult. Well, that and teh cancer.

Good Luck 2 U!

I’ll do my post-mortem now, so I don’t have to do one later.

How long did you date before you were married?

5 Years.

How long were you married?

5042 Solar Units

How long did it take for you to realize things were not working out?

It will catch me by suprise.

How much longer did it take you to commit to a divorce?

There will be no divorce, only a vibronic dagger in my braincase.

How many prior marriages did you and your partner each have?

How old were you and your partner when you got married?

If you were previously married, what lessons did you take into this marriage and how did they help or not help?

N/A.

Do you plan on getting married again? Why or Why not?

That will prove difficult, what with my atoms scattered across the galaxy.

If you do plan on getting married again, what are some lessons you will take with you?

Spend more time inhabiting the cyborg clone in the Algol System, with the lady, and less time projecting my mind to the fleet of ships I use for space piracy in the Beta Cluster.

Always watch out for alien hiveminds that target unprotected space pirate widows for mentalfection and turn them into bloodthirsty killers, willing to betray anyone and anything in search of more Cronos-4, the essence of pure time travel.

Build a better failsafe system to prevent the vault where I store the organic portion of my circuitry from being compromised.

Say “I love you,” at least once a day, even if she is making me mad.

I will also probably build my own children this time, instead of just infecting the Zetabeast Throneworld with a techno-virus that makes their appliances love me like a father.

I might have to move Flowers to the tl;dr pile under Kitsune soon :/

I think Flowers sounds a bit like Warren Ellis. I can’t decide whether it’s good or bad, but I enjoy it nevertheless.

Funny how many people sign up for 40 to 80 years of marriage and only last 5. Extremely funny.

Yes, although it’s had some rocky patches.

Right after the divorce, my ex wanted to move out of state with her - I was feeling guilty about asking for the divorce, so I didn’t fight it, which was a huge mistake. In retrospect, I could’ve definitely made her stay in-state, which would’ve made it much easier to keep the relationship strong.

Anyhow, they both (ex-wife and daughter) moved out of state, and my daughter flew out to see me for a long weekend every month. Some health problems came up for my ex, and my daughter moved back in with me and my girlfriend full-time for a few years, which turned out to be a really good thing as it let us reconnect in a way that wouldn’t have happened with just visitation rights.

My daughter is back living with her mom now - we still talk on the phone, but (at 17 years old) she’s not really interested in visiting much these days.

Anyhow, my advice would be to FIGHT HARD for your custody rights. Things would have turned out much better for my daughter had I gotten a court order to keep her in-state.

I don’t blame myself, exactly (getting a divorce was easily the hardest thing I ever did, and I really wasn’t thinking clearly while I was going through it, as there was so much emotional turmoil), but it was definitely a mistake to not put up a fight.

That’s not always enough. I know that is how I felt going into my marriage, and we seemed to be perfectly compatible, but circumstances out of our control completely changed the dynamic of our marriage, and rather than continuing to be a screaming harridan, I left.

I’ll do my post mortem I suppose.

What went right:
We just really seemed to “get along” and we were very passionate about each other. We had the same interests, came from fairly similar socio economic backgrounds, and were in the same place in our careers.

What went wrong:
Things changed. We got married, we were doing well, bought a house and stuff, and then it happened that we decided to get custody of his son from a previous marriage. His son was kindergarden aged, and because of where my husband worked (hour plus commute from Concord to Fremont, whereas I had a 5 minute commute to work) I ended up becoming the primary caretaker, taking him to school, keeping an eye on him almost constantly.

His son was a great kid, but had a lot of issues. My ex’s first wife was a drug addict and a very irresponsible parent, around the time we were working on getting custody she had her other kids (she has 3 kids from 3 different fathers) taken from her by child protective services.

So like I said, he had a lot of issues. He was very violent in school, and at home it was really stressful to get him to just behave. I was starting to have problems at work because I was constantly having to stay home with him when he was sick (frequently) or I would have to leave work early to pick him up when the after school stuff wasn’t open. My ex wasn’t in any position to be able to be able to do anything about it, really. I was screaming all the time at everyone, and really just hated myself. I went through some therapy for depression and was on medication, but the shit they put me on didn’t help at all, and I stopped seeing the doctor.

Somewhere in all that, the 9/11 shit happened, along with the dotcom bust. I started to heavily play MMOs as a means of escape, and got involved in an online affair with someone. My ex and I were barely speaking to each other, and he told me to get out. So I left, and got my own place. Shortly thereafter I lost my job due to chronic absenteeism and poor performance. It would have been nice if they’d been a little more supportive of what I was going through, but oh well.

How long did you date before you were married?
I think about a year. Maybe 2. My memory is kinda hazy sometimes. :\

How long were you married?
“Technically” we were married for almost 8, but we were just shy of 3 years when I moved out.

How long did it take for you to realize things were not working out?
Hard to say. I was in a pretty bad mental fog for a lot of the last year of it? I was under a lot of stress. :\

How much longer did it take you to commit to a divorce?
I think that when I moved out I knew it was over, but because my ex and I are both terrible procrastinators, it took us several years to actually get things in motion.

How many prior marriages did you and your partner each have?
me 0 him 1

How old were you and your partner when you got married?
We were both 24, and turned 25 within a couple months.

Do you plan on getting married again? Why or Why not?
No idea. I am in a stable long term relationship right now that has lasted for a few years now.

If you do plan on getting married again, what are some lessons you will take with you?

Make sure everything really is worked out. But there’s really to be honest no preparation for what life can throw at you I suppose. Sometimes shit happens.

Sometimes I just think fate was against me. There were all sorts of superstitious warning signs: my wedding ring never fit right, it used to eat away at my finger, making it so I couldn’t wear it.

Wow, these match. Athryn and bigdruid, sittin’ in a tree. . . .

Go to hell.

That’s hardly Kitsune length.

Put him on the pile marked “Trying too hard”, where Bill can keep him company.

(Ok, so no-one’s funny ALL the time.)

I’m sorry, I was just joking. I did not know it would be that sensitive to you, I thought it was amazing how similar some of your answers were on very particular matters.

Please accept my apology.

Touched a nerve, huh? If you like bigdruid so much, why don’t you MARRY HIM?

Wow.
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I’m sorry, it did touch a nerve, and I really didn’t mean to snap like that. Yes I was really heavily into MMOs, but not to the extent where I wouldn’t bother to get out of bed. And to be honest, the support of friends in my guild and online really did help me get through things. I do have hobbies outside of MMOs nowadays, although I still frequently play them.

The whole divorce thing is still a rough subject for me. I really did want it to work out, but it was never meant to be.

slowly backs out of this thread, realizing no good can come of trying to be funny here.

I’m kind of surprised this thread exists at all, with serious responses… never been married… probably wouldn’t write a post-mortem about it on Qt3 if I ever were, though. Not that I’m judging anyone who did/does, I’m just pretty sure I wouldn’t do it myself.