That middle finger ending (by the way, can we officially call it that from now on?) is awesome sounding. My respect fro Bioware went up a couple of points just for flinging that in people’s faces.

Was hearing an interview on Bioware youtube channel about the extended cut, they say to see the extended cut you have to start from a save before the attack on the Cerebrus base that seems very far, isn’t just enough to start from ground right before ascending to the citadel? Maybe they added some content to the previous scenes but most of it seems to be just in the end.

They did add new stuff to the scenes going up to the transporter.

Ok thanks, I think I’ll just watch the last scenes of the two endings and the great new middle finger ending, sounds great to me, not really interested in replaying the long combat scenes from the end.

I thought there was still another mission or two between the Cerberus base and the final mission on Earth. I remember thinking I was almost done with the game because it clearly communicated the point of no return. Then it still took me a long time to get to the tearful goodbye part.

So, 2GB is just extended cutscenes?
Hopefully someone will put it on youtube.

Here you go if you want to waste your time.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/Mass-Effect-3/Mass-Effect-3-Story-and-Campaign-Discussion-Spoilers-Allowed/Extended-Cut-Ending-Links-12759457-1.html

The endings are no less shitty.

I think that is exactly what I am going to do as well.

Bioware, while producing Mass Effects 1, 2, and 3:
“This is your story. We are just facilitating you making your own story.”

Bioware, Ending Mass Effect 3:
“This is our story. You wanting it to be your story impugns on our artistic integrity.”

Bioware, releasing Ending DLC:
“Oh, you want to be free to make a choice, make it your story, huh? Fuck you. Everyone dies, the end.”

Finally, the ending I’ve been waiting for!

Yeah the “refusal” ending is the only one I like.

Gosh golly, Bioware actually spent enormous amounts of money to create a completely free add-on to try to address complaints from their customers, and this is the reaction they get?

I’d never have predicted that.

Sigh.

So if the Wachowskis spent some money to film a new ending to the Matrix films, you’d totally dig that and we’d all be jerks for still being bitter, is that it Denny?

Free doesn’t mean fucking shit to me. The endings are still garbage because the reason the Reapers do what they do is STUPID.

The money they spent on that was partly my money, so don’t waggle your finger at me either. I already paid for that stupid ending.

It needs a rewrite, not a touch-up.

So I gave in and watched them on Youtube. I think these were much more full, complete, and satisfying endings than the choose-your-color cut and past endings that shipped. The only people left out in the cold now are those who wanted a full-on happy ending. The extra information removed the uncertainty about the various choices, the jungle scenes much better explained and understandable, and the post-event montage provides a much better sense of closure.

These aren’t the endings that I wanted or the endings I would have crafted, to be sure, but for the most part, many of my complaints were resolved. If they had shipped with these endings, there would have been some discussion but minimal outcry. Lots of people would have been unhappy because some of the more glaring problems remain (Deus Ex three choices + the middle finger everyone-dies ending, Shepard earned a happy blue baby ending, etc.) but it flows much better and is much less jarring than the original terribad versions of the endings.

In retrospect, hopefully in the future companies will weigh the full costs of shipping with a really poorly done endings vs. taking the time to do it right.

With all of that said, I think that the real reason that they didn’t offer a full-on happy ending is that it would have been much harder for the companies involved to let the creators walk away from the franchise. Also, “edgy” and “mature”.

The reapers went from this

to

“we are here to kill you to save you from synthetics.”

Just…dumb.

I think the new endings are still almost non sequiturs. Yes, they are more complete in that they fill in details that were missing before, but the whole star child scenario is still goofy after the build up of the last three games.

Oh well. I honestly didn’t expect Bioware to pull a rabbit out of the hat and rewrite the game, so it is what it is.

I just don’t think Bioware gets it anymore. Fixing the gaping plot holes and wrapping everything up in a more cohesive manner would have been sufficient. If they were going to change anything it should have been the star child idiocy, but for some reason held firm on that while changing a bunch of stuff that had no reason to be changed. It does make me smile a bit to think that all the people who claimed there were no plot holes, or kept spouting “artistic integrity” basically took one on the chin with these revisions.

It’s kind of hard to take the “flinging that in people’s faces” seriously when they caved in multiple other places and retconned the original endings. Basically it’s equivalent to calling someone an asshole, under your breath and as they are walking away, instead of saying it to their faces. It takes no guts at all and earns no respect IMO. Basically all they did was validate the complaints about the original endings and in the end they trolled themselves considering many people think the other endings are so bad that the “fuck you, everything dies” ending is the most satisfying.

I like that theres now a new end, and “new aspects” to the old ends. This make for a more rich end.
The control end now is terrrible, horrible,… humanity creating a demigod all-powerfull figure to control and guardian over everything.
I still like the synthesis end, except the “no more evolution” part.

Good stuff.

I’m pretty happy with the new endings. The whole deus ex crucible idea was kind of weak, and they really wrote themselves into a corner by not advancing the plot in ME2, but the endings are about as good as they can be expected given the magical plot device. (The synthesis option went from silly to super sugary though.)