Has anyone else bought Omega and now feel like a bit of a sucker? I found it really boring. Leviathan was much more interesting in my opinion.
Grifman
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Hmm, it’s a shame the ending didn’t have all hands on deck :(
That DLC was included in the launch version for free.
Zing! You guys are on fire tonight, I tells ya! Keep 'em coming!
marxeil
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So I got this in one of the sales. I heard the original ending was not good. does the game now come with both the new and old endings? How do I choose? Do I want the new ending?
No spoilers please ;)
The game should be fully patched, so it should include the new endings, and they are the way to go (allthough I didn’t mind the old ones all that much either, tbh…). The main difference (in a nutshell): with the new endings, some unlogical things are better explained (which solved my biggest gripe), some loose ends are tied up (hurray!) and you get an aditional option to choose from, though still unsatisfactory to many people…
So: no choice between patched or unpatched. Still choices at the end ofd the game, but you’ll see when you get there. Enjoy!
Edit: and happy new year!
Grifman
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I doubt if the game includes the new ending, but you should see it as a free download on Origin. Do you want the new ending? How do you choose? Well, since you don’t want spoilers how can I tell you? You can’t make a knowledgeable choice without spoilers, right?
All I can do is give you my opinion, which is yes, but others may/will differ. But you could always play both.
The new ending just makes it longer and happier. It’s worse than the original version.
I assume you have the game on origin, so rightlick on it and select “show game details” or something like that, and extended cut along with all the other DLCs will be listed there.
Definitely download the extended cut and I recommend Leviathan and From Ashes. I had all of these when playing and it was fantastic experience, apart from the server fuck up of EA (scroll up and you can see my posts about it).
edit: don’t listen to Brad Genz
Grifman
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But the writers tell us this was their original vision, that they just didn’t express it well in the original version, so how can you complain?
Bioware has a bad habit of telling their abusive “fans” what they think they want to hear. They went back and nerfed the ending because a cadre of crybabies on the internet wouldn’t shut the fuck up and as a subsidiary of a publicly traded company they are terrified of alienating customers. Now we all know what it looks like when a studio forces a director to change an movie’s ending because of focus groups, because that dynamic played out publicly across the internet this year. I don’t know about you, but I don’t like it when thoughtful, challenging conclusions are destroyed in an act of commercial appeasement.
The only thing the new ending does is it covers up some illogical plot holes. Those things didn’t bother Brad Grenz because he covered them up in his head with a possible explanation. But to me, that “possible explanation” was just as good as fan fiction: created in your own head, and NOT the official story. I know that didn’t bother Brad Grenz, but it really, really bothered me.
I wish to god that I could go back in time and unplay the original ending. I wish I’d waited for the new ending they put in where they got rid of the illogical plot holes. Don’t worry, they still didn’t change any of the main themes or substantive things about the ending. They just made it make more sense. Unless you happen to be someone like Brad who likes covering up plot holes by saying “well, that just probably means this happened, and I’m sticking with it, because that’s what’s most logical to me”. Which is fine. But again, to me, that’s the same as any fan fiction: it doesn’t feel like the real thing to me when I come up with it in my own head.
Just a quick note: I don’t mean to make it sound like I’m dumping on Brad in any way. I just envy him. I wish I could be satisfied with the original ending in the same way he was, but those plot holes and illogical scenes REALLY bothered me because they had paid attention to details until that point in the series and the series of scenes at the end didn’t make sense to me. It was minor things, but it was a series of minor things. And they were all fixed in the extended ending, so I would recommend anyone new not to play the original endings.
What you call illogical plot holes I call intentional ambiguity or “leaving things open to interpretation”.
Like I said, I envy you. The mental gymnastics it takes to come up with a logical explanation for those plot holes were so extreme, I couldn’t believe you were satisfied with them at the time. But then they actually released the extended ending and that’s exactly what happened. On the one hand, it kind of makes sense, because it’s the only way to logically explain what happened, but on the other hand, it did require changing a couple of scenes from the original ending, which you were fine with hand-waving away, but I’m much more satisfied with actually taking them out instead of hand-waving them away. “Oh yeah, just ignore that particular frame, they just put that in because they made a mistake”. Yeah, that kind of hand-waving, I’m just not good at. That’s the part that feels like fan-fic to me.
marxeil
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Off course I was looking for opinions. I’ll play the new cut - sorry Brad, you’re outvoted :)
Grifman
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Actually, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t. To say that directors/producers/writers are always right isn’t reality. No group of people is right all of the time.
because that dynamic played out publicly across the internet this year. I don’t know about you, but I don’t like it when thoughtful, challenging conclusions are destroyed in an act of commercial appeasement.
Me neither but the problem is that the ending of Mass Effect 3 was anything but thoughtful and challenging. It was just plain terrible - it was illogical, contradicted major and minor plot points, and out of nowhere introduced a deus ex machina (the you know who).
And the bit post deus ex machina was incredibly truncated and inexplicable. I assume the ending DLC doesn’t change the biggest parts I had a problem with - the deus ex machina and ridiculous arbitrary trinary choice - but at least I would hope that it makes that handful of few-second cutscenes into some sort of actual narrative closure and maybe makes an actual difference between the outcomes of said ridiculous arbitrary trinary choice other than the color of the shockwave.
