Spock
2066
Glad you guys like the San Juan shots! And yes Matt, the Anguilla shot was from within the sim, but using the drone cam. I got lucky with some nice clouds in the background!
I took that Anguilla shot while my aircraft was parked; I just used the drone. I had all sorts of trouble using the drone while the TBM was in the air with AP on. Every time I switched to the drone, the TBM would immediately start a 50 degree turn â it cost me rep in OnAir.
Maybe theyâve patched this, because I did NOT get dinged for taking off with one notch of flaps (i.e., set to take off). Also, OnAir used to ding me for not starting the TBM with a beacon, even though Iâd turned on the âpulseâ light; no ding this time.
Lovely shot of Turin!
Matt_W
2067
Ah, thatâs great news! Iâll stop putting full flaps on for takeoffs now.
vyshka
2070
Wow, it looks like he has done all sorts of stuff:
spec10
2071
While I am pretty sure they didnât really model it in the sim, if you leave the inert separator off during taxi, take off and landing, you risk sucking stones and similar foreign objects through the air intake directly into your engine.
Matt_W
2072
Right. I do it then because I get annoyed by the warning light and thereâs no debris in the sim. It does also affect engine performance in the sim.
Skipper
2073
For anyone still interested, FSEconomy has re-allowed account creations at this time:
https://www.fseconomy.net/
Once you get the forum site login, post here using the same format to request the -game- account:
https://www.fseconomy.net/forum/new-account
The latter takes a bit (a day or three.) They have caught back up pretty well so jump on this now if youâre interested.
Thanks for the heads up. Will let you guys know when Iâm in.
Pedro
2075
Thanks Skipper!
New account requests coming in thick and fast over there.
Skipper
2076
Sounds good. Once either of you get the game account, along the top menu bar youâll see:
Groups
Select Groups -> All Groups

Search with CTRL-F for Quarter To Three:

Beside Quarter To Three, for you, will be JOIN button. Click than then either PM me on here or post in this thread with your FSEconomy game name.

Matt_W
2077
Did you buy a G58 too @Skipper? I need to do some flights to help pay for those!
Skipper
2078
Iâve had that a while that was my first buy. Sheâs paid for. I tend to have it at big hubs I fly in-out of for cash, right now itâs out of KATL.
We need some additional planes to fly for the new folks. The TBM still has a bit to go before payoff.
Woohoo, Iâm in! Account-wise anyway. I installed the client on my desktop, which isnât patched up in MSFS. Iâm thinking of starting out on Japan, now that itâs had its update. Am I going to regret that as far as the QT3 group goes, or does it not matter too much where individual pilots are?
Spock
2080
Nope, I donât think it matters for FSE. You can do one flight in Japan, the next in Nebraska, unless you own a plane â plane ownership does tie you to wherever the plane is.
Skipper
2081
I donât think so. Weâve all talked about getting a plane somewhere out in Asia for âreverse time zone,â flying. I think youâre fine there. It means youâll want to look around for hubs there that have rentals you can fly with, and missions to fly.
If you click on airports, then scroll to the bottom, there is a search. You can search for specific rentable aircraft within a certain distance of an airport.
When you find one with an aircraft you want to fly, check the rental rate, the bonus rate (how much you get charged or paid depending on flying away or toward its home,) then check missions. Green missions (player) usually pay a bit more but black missions can sometimes have really profitable deals. It really varies.
Most of what I saw in Japan appeared to be lower cargo and PAX counts, but the goal is to fly where you want and enjoy yourself. Ferrying a couple of passengers around some beautiful scenery isnât a loss, in my opinion. Itâs fun.
If needed, you can always do a run or three in a large hub in the US if you need a cash infusion.
To those of you Iâll be adding to QT3: that group is for all of us. Cash there is usable if you need it for an aircraft. It also covers fuel-ups for any of the aircraft leased to the group. Until you get your own aircraft, feel free to fly for YOURSELF, but use a group aircraft if you see one open. If/when you want to âput into the group,â after you set up your flight you can select âfly for Quarter To Three.â In that case youâll take 90% of the profit, and the other 10% will go to QT3âs group account.
Also note: you can be a member of multiple groups. If youâre interested in one with other buddies, or people flying in a specific area, etc, do it. The more to keep you going in MSFS.
Spock
2082
I canât seem to bind any hotkey to âgear up.â I have to click and drag manually, which is a pain while trying to steer the aircraft on takeoff. How do you guys manage this?
Also, does MSFS have a chart somewhere indicating what navaids are represented in the sim? I found a chart for Guadeloupeâs airport that includes an ILS locator, but MSFS doesnât seem to recognize it.
Yet another question: when flying the TBM, I can use external views with the End key, but I canât really pan the camera; that affects the aircraft. Likewise, I can use the INSert key, but if I do this, the aircraftâs navigation goes haywire whether or not AP is on. Do you guys have problems with this?
Finally, Iâm curious what ISA (intâl standard atmosphere) readout tells me. I see the OAT (outside air temp) at 15C, which is plenty warm, and the ISA at 8C. I understand ISA is a theoretical paramater, a sort of guide to where we are in the atmosphere. What if anything more do I need to know about it?
Skipper
2083
Both my stick and throttle have it mapped, but also the keyboard:
Youâre beyond me on the chart and ISA readouts, bud. Wish I could help. The BEST TIP I can give for drone shots is âŚ
⌠thatâs where the Xbox controller shines. Once you hit the Insert key and go into drone mode, the Xbox controller switches entirely to drone mode. Iâm not sure which settings accomplish this but not sure it would be as easy on a normal joystick.
- Left joystick is on-plane/on-view forward-right-reverse-left.
- Right joystick is yaw around a center point, so turning.
The combo of those two make it like an FPS game on Xbox. But also:
- Left trigger goes down in altitude.
- Right trigger goes up in altitude.
- Left bumper tilts the view to the left (roll plane.)
- Right bumper tilts the view to the right (roll plane.)
I know there are a few extra drone options like depth of field, etc. I do not know if those are mapped at all.
Matt_W
2084
From what I can tell, ISA is standard temperature depending on altitude. Itâs 15C at sea level and decreases 2C for each 1000â higher. If your OAT (actual outside air temperature) is significantly hotter than ISA, the air density is lower than standard and the aircraft will âhandleâ like itâs higher than your altimeter is reading. Rule of thumb is that 10 degrees C âfeelsâ like about 1200â in altitude.
So if youâre at 10,000â, with ISA -5C, and the OAT is actually 15C, then itâll feel like 12,400â. I think this mostly matters for takeoff and landing at high altitude airports, i.e. low speed flight where youâre going to struggle to get lift. If itâs a hot day, donât load your plane down.