Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020) - We're really sorry about Microsoft Flight

OMG those are so stunning!

Left on a cliffhanger!

Very nice; the stadiums in Chicago are well realised compared to the likes of Wembley - photogrammetry I assume.

@jpinard Lol; mine defaulted to Medium on a 2080 Super. I just whacked it up to Ultra and haven’t looked back since.

Re: time compression - I seem to be getting different results. I can only go to X2 for the Bonanza, DA62 and King Air, and X3 for the TBM. The next one up starts the porpoising within seconds. I’m thinkin maybe it’s because I fly relatively close to the ground.

Final leg, Portland to Seattle, but no direct jobs, so took a bit of a trip north

The San Juan Islands

Seattle at last!

Space Needle


The little turboprop that could

36,792 nautical miles. 165 hours, 26 minutes. Though you’d have to add another 1,257 miles and maybe seven hours to get to Anchorage, which is where I took over.

Edit: I was wondering why SeaTac looked so spartan. Turns out the game hadn’t installed most of the “optional” elements on my new machine, including most of the planes and the handcrafted airports. Sorry about that. Luckily I didn’t take too many airport shots.

Fantastic ride, Sir “Round The World” Yellow. Great screenshots of the last legs too, I’m kind of amazed at the detail on some of them, you flew over Heinz Field, Wrigley and Soldier Field and all looked fairly good from that height. Someone on reddit made a flight to all the NFL stadiums in America, that was a cool ride as well.

Sounds like the TBM did well. The only maintenance appeared to be that 100hour check along the way.

Who’s doing the round-the-world Cessna 172, @Pedro ?


Good grief :D

That would be slooooww.

It seems HP sent Pilot Emilie a headset, so we may be getting some VR impressions soon, at least if MS play nice.

I tried Neofly yesterday and it was a lot of fun. FSEeconomy had started to get to be work - ferrying passengers in my DA62, setting autopilot, accelerating time, etc. It was definitely a breath of fresh air flying short missions in a steam gauge 152, navigating by real world landmarks, real time, etc. It’s free and although not well documented, easy enough to figure out.

It also pairs nicely with the mobile companion app, which is excellent, and allows you to compare what’s out your window with what’s on the map.

I’ve gotten really used to using two screens. One of the things MSFS gets very right is the excellent multi screen support. I’m a little worried that I’ll have trouble making the jump to VR when my G2 arrives (I guess it’s a mixed blessing that it won’t be any time soon).

Onair claims to have fixed the bug with its tutorial, so I may give that a shot again later. It’d have been nice if there was a little more game built in, but the online community has stepped up admirably.

I’m still on a single monitor as I game from a laptop. But I’m also nervous about VR based on the way I fly. It may take some getting used to being in a virtual cockpit.

I feel the same way. Something more than just landing challenges and the bush trips. Sims have always been kind of, “find your own fun,” but without more tutorials or a career option in some way, the meta games will have to take the place of it instead.

Man, MS needs to update their Seattle photogrammetry. There’s been a lot of change in the past 5 years.

I’m slowly paying back the loan amount I have on the King Air, though to be fair, it’s coming in very quickly. A few runs with a full load of passengers adds up real quick.

But while flying out of Alabama I few over this at fairly low altitude:

The photogrammetry wasn’t there but still, you could tell that entire yard was full of cars. A trucking company in the front and loading them up on rail lines on the side. Tons and tons and tons of cars. It’s a Hyundai plant in Montgomery. And now I kind of what to fly over some other car plants just to see the scale. This thing was massive!

Map point for those interested:
32.286291, -86.320658

Oh wow; that car park is like one of those Guess the no. of Jellybeans competitions. Incredible.

I’ve been taking a few long, time compressed trips in South America to pay off the Caribbean DA62. The Caribbean is pretty boring from the air, tbh. Lots of, basically, sandbars with mangrove swamps on them, very nondescript. And you’re over the sea the rest of the time. I might move that plane to Venezuela/Colombia eventually.

Took some time off from it at the weekend and fired it up today with some reluctance, but it turns out I still love it.

EDIT: Oh, and I started back into the Patagonian Bush Trip. Some of the landing strips are a nightmare. Grrrr.

Patch and USA world update is live. 9.5 gigs.

The Grand Canyon in the update is streets ahead of the 1.0 version.

Ah, seems the patch is 9.5 gigs, the world update is a further 4.2.


  • KATL – Atlanta International
  • KFHR – Friday Harbor
  • KDFW – Dallas / Fort Worth International Airport (DFW)
  • KSWF – New York Stewart International Airport

Points of Interest

  • Chimney Rock
  • Crazy Horse Memorial
  • Pilgrim Monument, Provincetown MA
  • Fort Jefferson
  • Washington Monument, Washington DC
  • Capitol, Washington DC
  • White House, Washington DC
  • Wright Brothers National Memorial
  • Mount Rushmore
  • Biltmore Estate
  • Devils Tower
  • New River Gorge Bridge
  • United States National Arboretum
  • Bixby Creek Bridge
  • Chesapeake Bay Bridge
  • Sunshine Skyway Bridge
  • Mackinac Bridge
  • Navajo Bridge
  • Astoria-Megler Bridge
  • U.S. Grant Bridge
  • Lowry Avenue Bridge
  • Lewis and Clark Bridge
  • The Sault Ste. Marie International Bridge
  • Fort Knox
  • Monument Rocks National Natural
  • Coronado Heights Castle
  • Ellis County Courthouse
  • Monument Valley
  • Yosemite El Capitan
  • Cliff Palace, Mesa Verde, Colorado
  • Shiprock, New Mexico
  • Haystack Rock at Canon, Oregon
  • Half Dome, Yosemite
  • Dworshak Dam
  • Hoover Dam
  • Oroville Dam
  • Alcatraz (water tower and lighthouse only)
  • Fort McHenry, Baltimore
  • Rainbow Bridge, Niagara Falls
  • Glen Canyon Dam
  • Las Vegas Strip (Night)
  • Confederation Bridge
  • Johnson Space Center Houston (visitor’s center)
  • Kennedy Space Center Florida (visitors center)
  • Pearl Harbor, Hawaii (memorial site)
  • Mauna Kea Observatory, Hawaii
  • National Radio Astronomy Observatory
  • Gulf of Mexico, Oil Rigs
  • Airport Graveyard, Tucson

In addition to the USA world update, several fixes and improvements have been added to the sim. Thanks to players’ feedback, we are continuing to bring content and adjustments to Microsoft Flight Simulator. Please find below items on which we’ve been working on for this update.


  • Several crashes were fixed to improve overall stability of the title
  • Optimization on photogrammetry loading
  • Offline air traffic aircraft are now properly removed at a long distance. This caused a performance degradation over time.


  • From handling and flight model improvements to auto-pilot fixes, a general review of all planes has been made for this update.


  • Fixed: Boeing 747-8 Intercontinental fuel consumption issue
  • Fixed: Airbus A320neo fuel consumption issue
  • Reduced yaw oscillation on the Airbus A320neo by further reducing yaw gain


  • Pipistrel Virus SW121: Fixed – Cruise speed adjusted (previously too low) in the aircraft selection menu
  • Cessna 152: 5% more elevator authority
  • Cirrus SR22: Fixed – The mixture control is no longer set to Automixture
  • Cessna 208 B Grand Caravan EX: Fixed – invisible spoiler removed
  • EXTRA 330LT : Engine reactivity increased
  • EXTRA 330LT : Fixed full castoring tail wheel animation and allowed up to 90° rotation
  • Robin Cap10 : Allowed 90° range of motion for full castering rear wheel

Garmin glass cockpit equipped aircraft:

  • Added visual notification on PFD when deactivating AP
  • Flight director is now automatically turned on when AP is enabled and cannot be disabled


  • The data consumption value calculation has been fixed
  • Fix input feedback on some devices
  • The livery name should now be correctly displayed in the menus
  • The weather image in the flight plan should now be correct in all cases
  • Some accuracy for the live time have been fixed
  • Fixed an issue that prevented the checklist eye button to be selected
  • The bushtrip menu should no longer freeze
  • Switching from online to offline in the menu should no longer freeze the title
  • Fixed some behaviors that resulted in having the World map search not responding


  • Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant default preset has been added (GA Twin engines configuration)
  • CH Throttle Quadrant default preset has been added
  • CH Flightstick Pro default preset has been added
  • CH Combatstick default preset has been added


  • The logbook should now properly log unfinished flights (either via return to main menu or via landing and shutting down the engine and Master)
  • The landing challenge target should now be properly displayed after restarting the activity


  • Streetlights of smaller streets and roads should now be displayed more randomly
  • Workers on an airport should no longer randomly freeze and stop being animated

Wow, they added a hand-crafted Friday Harbor airport??? It’s such an odd member of that list. Here’s MASSIVE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT A and MASSIVE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT B and Friday Harbor.

About the only people who fly to there are Hollywood celebrities who own homes on the islands.

Aliens not included!

No kidding!

Patched but getting the USA update now as well. Just so new folks are aware, those are under the Marketplace as free add-ons. It is not part of the patch.

While I’m in the area…