Thrag
1844
Is that just fog or are they modeling the wildfire smoke?
Someone needs to make a firebomber mod.
If that was taken anytime in the past week, itâs fog. All the smoke cleared out last Saturday. This week has been nothing but fresh ocean air brought by high winds, as well as plenty and plenty of rain.
Matt_W
1846
The ETE listed in the bush trip nav logs? I think itâs cruising speed, assuming you fly directly from origin to destination, which you never do, so youâll always take longer.
Without external views? You could triangulate to a couple of VOR stations if theyâre available, but youâve have to plot all that out on charts. Use the stopwatch as a rough guide, to within a minute or two.
For the bush trips, I fly at about 1000â AGL so I can get good views of the landscape. But itâs up to you. Sometimes the views are better higher up or you want to climb so you can get over a ridge or something.
I think itâs morning fog, but itâs real-time weather so they could be getting visibility figures from their weather vendor and putting them in the sim.
Thrag
1847
Flew out of SF to sightsee. Went over to the Farallon islands.
On approach.
View was a bit meh, though I didnât expect a lot of detailed modeling work for a remote location.
North Farallon is a looking a little flat however.
So obviously the next thing to do is to go fly under the golden gate bridge.
On approach.
Buzzing an LNG taker making its way through the gate. I canât help but notice heâs going eastbound in the westbound lane of the channel (literally unplayable!).
A neat addition to their live living world stuff would be to integrate with AIS so it can show real marine traffic too.
Flying under the bridge!
My screenshots end here because I was too busy looking around as I went under. 10 seconds later I clipped the surface of the water. I didnât crash, immediately. I bounced but it knocked out my engine. I tried to turn toward marina green, and I got surprisingly far before ditching in the bay.
I was able to buy a Honeycomb Yoke from Newegg this morning. They may still be in stock for anyone interested.
Skipper
1849
Not sure if the Honeycombs are the same but a word of warning. My newegg thrustmaster combo took a while to get here, shipped direct from China. I did not know that was the origination. Tracking also seemed like it was stuck for about three days then it was on my doorstep, 2 days before it was, âdue.â
Thrag
1850
Is there in game info Iâm missing, or does anyone know of a good resource for each planeâs performance characteristics and procedures?
I randomly googled up a user manual for the Savage Cub (http://gaid.altervista.org/pontinaeagles/files/Zlin%20Aviation%20FLIGHT%20MANUALSavage%20Europa%20%2021-07-08.pdf) and it has all sorts of needed info. Max climb speeds and angles, detailed takeoff and landing procedures for different conditions, stuff like:
9.5.7 Cruise
Note: Do not exceed the Maximum Continuous Power
(5500rpm).
RPM Power Speed
4000 40% 79 mph (127 km/h)
4400 50% 90 mph (144 km/h)
4800 65% 99 mph (160 km/h)
5000 75% 104 mph (168 km/h)
So the 91kt (104mph) cruising speed listed in game is at 75% power. Good to know.
9.6.2 Normal Landing at MTOW
Maintain normal power-off approach with flaps selected to 2nd
flap position while maintaining 53mph(85km/h) airspeed. After the flare
is initiated, the touchdown will occur at about 40mph(64 km/h). After
landing, maintain full aft position of the flight control stick and brake
carefull. Retract the flaps after landing.
1 Airspeed 53 mph (85 km/h)
2 Wing Flaps 2nd FLAP POSITION
3 Touchdown THREE POINT
4 Braking MINIMUM
That âMINIMUMâ braking part of the procedure would have been real nice to know before I did a post landing headstand the first time I brought the cub down.
Matt_W
1851
Every time I switch from tricycle carriages to one of the tail draggers, I nose-dive the plane on my first landing. Fun to fail those bush legs in literally the last 2 seconds.
Wait, they expect you to land on the rear wheel? Thatâs impossible unless youâre seriously stalled out.
Skipper
1852
Gentlemen: We have a new horse in the stable, be sure and take her out for a run.

Matt_W
1853
Sweeeeet. I dumped $10k into the Qt3 account to help with payments.
Matt_W
1854
And Iâve got a job queued up. Taking it up to North Dakota.
Skipper
1855
Please note, fly em anywhere, thatâs part of the fun.
Skipper
1856
if you can find those executive ferries, those are good money.
Thrag
1858
I just finished the first leg of the Nevada bush challenge. With that huge runway I didnât even touch the brakes just in case. Though I did make a terrible approach and almost fell short of the runway.
I did have to rely on external view for a lot of the flight. For the larger compass if nothing else. I did start to get the hang of giving myself a visual reference point rather than squinting at the cockpit compass the whole time to try and maintain a bearing.
Matt_W
1859
Tip: Push the up arrow on your keyboard to sit up higher and give you a better view over the nose. Really helps with trying to follow a road or river on those bush flights. And/or fly off to the side so you can orient your view at 45° to keep an eye on it.
Pedro
1860
Nice! NB some of the later runways can be a bit trickier, not least in identifying them from the air. Matt posted a couple of pictures up thread showing the correct runway (leg 2 is one of these) in some caes.
And for sure raise the seat in the Cub.
Also, make sure to rebind Repair and Refuel to a key, itâs unassigned starting out. Youâll need to do that on the runway before taking off at times.
Thrag
1861
Iâve got a TrackIR so Iâm sitting tall and looking over the nose. I have noticed it doesnât quite stop me from sticking my head up out of the cockpit if I sit up enough.
Matt_W
1862
@Skipper, did you fly this here, or buy it in this location? :)