Minecraft! (single player dwarf fortress)

MrPerson · 2011-04-26T11:28:59.000Z

Multiplayer I find the enemies can be a little dangerous since lag really makes the combat wonky, especially with creepers. I use a bow more often in MP because of this.

GuildBoss · 2011-04-26T11:43:32.000Z

Dave Perkins:

I’ll bet you sissies respawn when you die. You should start a new world when you die. IRONMAN.

Yeah, and they probably sleep in beds to pass the night!

BTW, is this “ironman” enough for you, Dave? It’s Day 13 of my Man vs Minecraft “show” on youtube. I play Ironman style and must survive for 14 days, with lots of self-imposed limitations. Just watch the first couple minutes:

caesarbear · 2011-04-26T11:46:56.000Z

Teiman:

Id Software has made open source the Doom and Quake engine. And these games where viable after it.
The Duke Nukem engine was made open source too. And the Duke Nukem game is still possible.

I can’t see why letting people see your source code to make mods destroy a brand. More or less this is what the SourceSDK is about, give a big part of the code of the engine to modders. This has result in the creation of mods like Counter-Strike, Garrys Mod, Natural Selection and Empires for Half-Life. Team Fortress and Capture the flag for Quake.

Maybe so for FPS games, where there’s plenty of engines available, but with a game like Minecraft, that’s and odd sensation and has casual appeal, I think it’s a different case. It would be like the Sims releasing their source code. It makes things that much easier for leeching products like FortressCraft.

Shellfishguy · 2011-04-26T11:50:42.000Z

GuildBoss:

[QUOTE=Dave Perkins;2654218]I’ll bet you sissies respawn when you die. You should start a new world when you die. IRONMAN.

Yeah, and they probably sleep in beds to pass the night!

BTW, is this “ironman” enough for you, Dave? It’s Day 13 of my Man vs Minecraft “show” on youtube. I play Ironman style and must survive for 14 days, with lots of self-imposed limitations. Just watch the first couple minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7zWgUqrVVI

Morning of Day 13 was crazy, three creeper good morning to you sir!

Pogo · 2011-04-26T12:16:19.000Z

MrPerson:

Multiplayer I find the enemies can be a little dangerous since lag really makes the combat wonky, especially with creepers. I use a bow more often in MP because of this.

With a diamond sword it’s irrelevant.

And ironically, skeletons are easier to fight with a melee weapon on a server. Something with the lag makes it seem very easy to just circle around them while auto attacking.

caesarbear · 2011-04-27T14:07:41.000Z

Maps!

Notch:

When you craft a map, you will be able to somehow select how “zoomed in” you want the map to be. It will be centered on the location where you craft it, and it will fill in as you explore the land. If you go outside the edges of the map, it will stop updating, so each map is of a specific area. (like real maps!)

I’ll try making it pop up an overlay when the map is active instead…
Players carrying the same map (!) will clearly be marked on the map. You might be able to mark locations as well. Probably. Maybe…
It will not update if you leave the map area. It only maps the top level now, but cave maps is an interesting idea…
It’s going to stay low res for various reasons, including style…

barstein · 2011-04-27T14:12:10.000Z

Incredible timing on Notch’s part, as I was just thinking about how badly maps are needed last night when I fired up Minecraft for the first time in a long while.

inactive_user · 2011-04-27T14:16:36.000Z

I love that he’s keeping everything tied into the world itself and the crafting system, not abstracting it out to a UI element. For most other games I’d hate that, but it feels right for Minecraft.

Volbard · 2011-04-27T14:31:31.000Z

I hope you can hang maps on walls!

Zylon · 2011-04-27T15:50:23.000Z

Maps had better be stackable in the inventory.

barstein · 2011-04-27T15:55:52.000Z

I suspect newly-crafted maps will stack but maps with content on them won’t, given the unique nature of each map. Maybe cloned maps can stack?

Zylon · 2011-04-27T15:58:34.000Z

He just needs some way to page through the maps in a stack. Inventory slots are limited enough as-is without having to clear out four or five more to carry all your maps.

barstein · 2011-04-27T15:59:30.000Z

Probably a future update.

Staff_Sergeant · 2011-04-27T17:55:27.000Z

Zylon:

He just needs some way to page through the maps in a stack. Inventory slots are limited enough as-is without having to clear out four or five more to carry all your maps.

He could make books or folders a seperate craftable item and then you could stick maps into one of those.

Zylon · 2011-04-27T20:00:02.000Z

Kind of like the way you have to craft bags for the other stackable items?

Morberis · 2011-04-27T20:07:51.000Z

Ok I am not getting how to install mods in minecraft.

I am supposed to open my minecraft jar, and then copy modloader straight into it.

Then uh, well the instructions say install modloadermp and leave that up to me. So I uh copy it straight into my minecraft jar.

Industrial craft says to copy straight into the minecraft jar…

So I’m copying everything into my minecraft jar and deleting the meta inf folder.

Open up %appdata%, if you don’t know how to do this, start>run, then type in %appdata%

Browse to .minecraft/bin

Open up minecraft.jar with WinRAR or 7zip.

Drag and drop the necessary files into the jar.

Delete the META-INF folder in the jar.

Run Minecraft, enjoy!

And yet industrialcraft does not work. I see no evidence of anything working, or not working - aside from not being able to craft.

Tman · 2011-04-27T20:26:58.000Z

Morberis - watch Guildbosses tutorial on installing mods here

Staff_Sergeant · 2011-04-27T20:40:35.000Z

Zylon:

Kind of like the way you have to craft bags for the other stackable items?

Why do I talk to you? Other items are identical. You can’t stack sand blocks and gravel blocks on each other just because theyre similar. Each map would be a unique item unless it was crafted on the same spot.

KiloOhm · 2011-04-28T02:40:41.000Z

Morberis:

Ok I am not getting how to install mods in minecraft.

I am supposed to open my minecraft jar, and then copy modloader straight into it.

Then uh, well the instructions say install modloadermp and leave that up to me. So I uh copy it straight into my minecraft jar.

Industrial craft says to copy straight into the minecraft jar…

So I’m copying everything into my minecraft jar and deleting the meta inf folder.

And yet industrialcraft does not work. I see no evidence of anything working, or not working - aside from not being able to craft.

You have to install the mod loaders too. If you go to the industrial craft main thread it will show where to get them there.

Dave_Perkins · 2011-04-28T05:17:42.000Z

GuildBoss:

BTW, is this “ironman” enough for you, Dave? It’s Day 13 of my Man vs Minecraft “show” on youtube.

I only watched 15 seconds because you mentioned ‘stew’ and I had no idea that that existed! I did find ‘bread’ yesterday in a chest near a monster spawn area, so I guess ‘stew’ is a logical extension…

I’ll watch the whole thing when I’m more savvy!