Minecraft! (single player dwarf fortress)

Whopper_Sr · 2010-09-22T23:35:10.000Z

benloran:

The biggest challenge has been recovering after a death. I sometimes get into an endless cycle where I try to get from the spawn point back to the building, in the daytime after the undead have burned, only to be severely wounded by the gang of creepers waiting at my door. Since I haven’t found food yet, I end up doing most of my work with 2 hearts left.

I’ve gotten lucky with a pig dropping off the cliff, but only once.

It’s Day 4 and I got some diamond and more iron. Tomorrow I plan to go all the way up to the surface to get some seeds (I destroyed my grass block). I’m sorry Doc but I can’t do this without crops.

I’m finding it much more challenging getting back in time for nighttime. I realize it’s my self imposed objective, but treating this as “home” is great.

I’m having ideas of getting some buckets of lava :)

And also using the water from the “ocean” way above as an “elevator” to get back down before sunset.

Time to go find some sand for glass as well.

Whopper_Sr · 2010-09-22T23:37:04.000Z

I’m also making the walls of this fort double-thick. The threat from creepers is too great.

And yeah, the early availability of diamond isn’t exactly making this easier.

DocLazy · 2010-09-23T01:25:10.000Z

benloran:

The biggest challenge has been recovering after a death. I sometimes get into an endless cycle where I try to get from the spawn point back to the building, in the daytime after the undead have burned, only to be severely wounded by the gang of creepers waiting at my door. Since I haven’t found food yet, I end up doing most of my work with 2 hearts left.

I could see where some might find that frustrating, but personally I’m having a blast. My tower isn’t too impressive yet, though.

Yeah that’s a pain, for some reason I couldn’t set the spawn point in the garden. Every time I tried, I’d spawn somewhere else. If anyone knows how to fix this let me know. If I can’t fix this I might try making a tunnel system from the spawn to the garden, or I could leave as is, a few strategically placed torches should make the run easier.

Whopper Sr:

I accept your challenge, with the optional rules.

I am currently sitting in the “base” huddled in a corner behind a 2-block high wall, as I didn’t have enough material to build a whole wall. I planted some saplings as the one tree you provided provides barely what I need, though you’ve provided more than enough torches (which are USELESS right now!)

Tomorrow, I plan on slaying the spiders and creepers with my FPS skills, collecting enough iron to make armor and a pick, diamond to make a sword, and grabbing some more dirt to increase the area (clarifications, am I allowed to bring dirt back from the underground to create a farm and plant more trees? Also, are we allowed to build “outside” of this little fort?)

edit: It is now daytime and the wooden wind chime sounds of burning skeletons are music to my ears.

yes and yes. Anything you find underground you can use. How and what you build is entirely up to you, as long as it’s interesting and tall.

The garden is there as a kind of safe place for the night when you first start out and a place to provide resources that are impossible to get underground.

You may want to hack in some grass blocks if you want any animals to spawn.

I’ve also had problems with skeletons and creepers fighting, blowing up parts of my wall. I’ve also be killed twice while in my base by spiders somehow getting over the wall. Including a skeleton riding a spider. The came out of no where scaring the hell out of me.

DocLazy · 2010-09-23T01:45:56.000Z

pg:

I appreciate the effort but I wouldn’t call it that much more challenging. Frustrating or time consuming is what I’d say. Once you manage to get a little bit more wood (you probably can even grow it down there) it’s just regular Minecraft again. In some ways it is even easier since you can see many mineral deposits and even rarer ones such as diamond.

It’s a survival challenge. That is you have limited resources and you need to work to survive. This is still a sandbox game so if someone wanted to hide in a cave they could, I like to challenge myself so I try to spend every night in my base if I can.

Trust me, a diamond suit of armour won’t help you for long.

Whopper_Sr · 2010-09-23T02:14:01.000Z

DocLazy:

You may want to hack in some grass blocks if you want any animals to spawn.

Hacking? I’m insulted. I’m currently building a stepcase down the side of the mountain and getting the grass to grow all the way down, and then across to my lawn.

DocLazy · 2010-09-23T03:54:43.000Z

I made some changes to the survival challenge map:

-Replaced dirt and gravel in western wall with sand and clay, so we no longer need to go to the surface.

-Added the walk of shame from spawn to the garden, to make it a little bit easier when you die.

I still can’t get the damn spawn to work properly, so the walk of shame will have to do for now.

http://www.mediafire.com/?hu4dha6tw6sjcll

DeepT · 2010-09-23T08:24:41.000Z

caesarbear, it seems the diamond spawns are about the same distribution each level, however it does seem that the clusters tend to be bigger in the upper levels of the diamond spawns.

Whopper_Sr · 2010-09-23T09:41:31.000Z

I’m on about Day 14 or so of Doc’s Xtreme Survival Challenge. Finally got enough stone to build a 3 block high wall up delineating my property with torches everywhere. This at least lets me work on the tower at night. I expanded the main fort, using the mossy cobblestone as a souvenir of sorts to build the base of the tower. Right now the problem is dirt. There’s a lot of it to be seen, but it’s all clumps and has to be dug out. The grass has only gotten maybe 10 blocks down from sea level so far, but I’m not too pressed for time on that. With fortifications built up, monsters are no longer a real threat, although there’s still a ton of them out there and the odd skeleton does jump up and get a shot off. Of course, creepers/spiders still make it dangerous on the initial journey out to the cliffsides.

I wish I could post pics.

And seriously considering hacking that grass back in.

Teiman · 2010-09-23T09:53:31.000Z

Is interesting how Minecraft compare with boulder dash.

en.wikipedia.org

Boulder Dash

Boulder Dash (バルダーダッシュ, Barudā Dasshu), is a video game released in 1984 by First Star Software for Atari 8-bit computers. There have been numerous versions and sequels in this series for numerous interactive platforms including: Apple II, MSX, ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64, ColecoVision, NES, BBC Micro, Acorn Electron, PC, Amstrad CPC, Amiga, Intellivision, Mac, Xbox 360 and many other platforms. It also influenced other games in the rocks-and-diamonds genre such as Repton. The original Boulder Th...

Theres not copying at all, but some ideas are soo powerfull that are reinvented.

Wendelius · 2010-09-23T10:15:26.000Z

Teiman:

Is interesting how Minecraft compare with boulder dash.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulder_Dash

Theres not copying at all, but some ideas are soo powerfull that are reinvented.

It does? I played a lot of Boulder Dash on my C64 back in the 80ies. I don’t quite see what they have in common apart from the digging…

Wendelius

Teiman · 2010-09-23T11:40:43.000Z

Wendelius:

It does? I played a lot of Boulder Dash on my C64 back in the 80ies. I don’t quite see what they have in common apart from the digging…

Well… there are blocks that fall, there are diamonds, monsters that mele attack is exploding and others, mostly superficial. Also there are some details that make boulder dash nothing like minecraft.

The interesting thing is that boulder dash is puzzle ish, Minecraft can also be made puzzle ish. Digging puzzles!

caesarbear · 2010-09-23T15:04:25.000Z

DeepT:

caesarbear, it seems the diamond spawns are about the same distribution each level, however it does seem that the clusters tend to be bigger in the upper levels of the diamond spawns.

hmm, that’s an interesting hypothesis. Let’s take a closer look at diamond patterns.

When considered horizontally there’s certainly some clustering. I can’t quite see a difference in clustering at the upper levels vs lower levels though. For some reason level 15 is notably sparser than the others at that range. This is probably a quirk of this world.
3-18 Individually
Diamond likes to keep it’s distance but it doesn’t exist in isolation. If you hit diamond it’s almost a guarantee that another diamond is 15-30 blocks away on that same level. While there are many large horizontal pockets without diamond, it’s extremely rare for any diamond to go neighborless.

Whopper_Sr · 2010-09-23T18:12:30.000Z

If anyone wants to repost this. My progress on DocLazy’s challenge:

img641 imageshack us/g/day2ohcrap jpg/

Lots o’ fun.

Charles · 2010-09-23T19:48:55.000Z

chequers · 2010-09-23T19:52:18.000Z

Damn, nice work Charles. How long did that take you?

Marcin · 2010-09-23T19:55:03.000Z

Ok, now I’m impressed.

Charles · 2010-09-23T19:56:38.000Z

checkers:

Damn, nice work Charles. How long did that take you?

Given the time playing the game to get it done… probably about 10 hours?

Wendelius · 2010-09-24T01:40:54.000Z

OK. Now that is a tower that didn’t take half an hour to build. Very nice work.

Wendelius

BrianRubin · 2010-09-24T14:49:31.000Z

I just bought this game without having tried it due to the amazing youtube vids and the praise here. :) Whee!

lordkosc · 2010-09-24T14:53:27.000Z

I wish there were sheep in multiplayer, I need cloth , as I want to make a ship in a bottle. :(