Minecraft! (single player dwarf fortress)

Pogo · 2010-10-04T12:45:28.000Z

I wonder how long torches will last, then. Hopefully something along the lines of 24 in-game hours, which is generally long enough for a spelunking session.

Zylon · 2010-10-04T12:50:03.000Z

GuildBoss:

Wonder what the lanterns will use for fuel… discuss!

The entire point of lanterns is that they don’t go out, so including fuel in the crafting recipe would be a bit odd.

Pogo:

I wonder how long torches will last, then. Hopefully something along the lines of 24 in-game hours, which is generally long enough for a spelunking session.

You can start and finish a spelunk in only 20 minutes?

Teiman · 2010-10-04T12:51:32.000Z

Lanterns will use coal, probably. It will be part of the recipe, so will be consumed, but you will get light forever.

jason · 2010-10-04T12:52:02.000Z

Lava.

mok · 2010-10-04T12:56:58.000Z

How do people perceive biomes are going to be implemented?

Teiman · 2010-10-04T13:02:12.000Z

jason:

Lava.

maybe.

make 2 cells deep hole, put lava, and finish with 1 glass = cheap lantern that cost you no iron.

mok:

How do people perceive biomes are going to be implemented?

if where me? using one of these algorithms…

en.wikipedia.org

Four color theorem

In mathematics, the four color theorem, or the four color map theorem, states that, given any separation of a plane into contiguous regions, producing a figure called a map, no more than four colors are required to color the regions of the map so that no two adjacent regions have the same color. Adjacent means that two regions share a common boundary curve segment, not merely a corner where three or more regions meet. Unlike the five color theorem, a theorem that states that five colors are enou...

also, maybe adding some rules like desert and winter can’t touch each another.

then you work on the mixing biomes, maybe add new cell blocks, like a new type of grass that only exist between deserts and normal climate areas.

Razgon · 2010-10-04T13:07:28.000Z

Desert and winter cant touch each other? This cant be simply because you don’t understand english very well - your grammar is way too good. Are you from somewhere where language structure is completely different, russia/china?

Just curious, and sorry for the derail, but sometimes I have no clue what you are talking about, and I mean that in the nicest possible way :-)

mok · 2010-10-04T13:16:53.000Z

I sure hope they add a moveable spawn point if they are going to add different terrain regions

Zylon · 2010-10-04T13:17:16.000Z

Razgon:

Desert and winter cant touch each other? This cant be simply because you don’t understand english very well - your grammar is way too good. Are you from somewhere where language structure is completely different, russia/china?

Garble.

GuildBoss · 2010-10-04T13:41:25.000Z

Zylon:

The entire point of lanterns is that they don’t go out, so including fuel in the crafting recipe would be a bit odd.

Not odd at all if you consider the fuel component will most likely be required to craft the lantern at all…it will be an integral part of the recipe. That doesn’t mean it needs to be replenished–it just needs to be supplied when you make the lantern.

Pogo · 2010-10-04T13:53:07.000Z

Zylon:

The entire point of lanterns is that they don’t go out, so including fuel in the crafting recipe would be a bit odd.

Not all the recipes make perfect sense. 3 sticks from one plank gets me a whole fence, but I need 6 planks and a stick for one wooden sign? And four torches right now last forever with one piece of coal. So I don’t find the notion that 1 coal might light a lantern forever all that odd.

I’m imagining that one lantern right now will require one coal, meaning spending a bit more time acquiring coal before one can safely light lots of areas.

You can start and finish a spelunk in only 20 minutes?

I didn’t realize the day/night cycle was so short. Maybe two in-game cycles then.

BiggerBoat · 2010-10-04T14:09:18.000Z

I don’t think the torch thing is a bad idea. Torches are so cheap to make that I don’t have to work to hard to light a cavern and make it safe from spawns. I’ve always got hundreds of them on hand. Having what exists as torches now getting changed to lanterns and being a bit more costly to produce seems fine and seems to preserve the balance of challenging/scary/fun.

YMMV, since I’ve heard of people having a hard time finding coal.

Also, aesthetically, lighting up a house with lanterns might look a bit cooler.

Pogo · 2010-10-04T14:13:13.000Z

BiggerBoat:

Also, aesthetically, lighting up a house with lanterns might look a bit cooler.

Definitely, though I imagine right now it’s not hard to modify torch artwork into lanterns.

Here I just made my own:

Actually… I think I’ll keep it like that!

Can’t change the position of the animated fire though, that will always be on top of the torch graphic.

jeffd · 2010-10-04T14:52:06.000Z

One thing I’d really like to see is dynamic lighting from torches. I should be able to hold one in my hand and have it cast light around me.

Tman · 2010-10-04T14:54:52.000Z

finally an update coming!

Major_Icehole · 2010-10-04T15:08:37.000Z

Count me in on the list of addicted. Grabbed this two weeks ago and have been sucked in.

Really just posting this to get rid of phantom page 63

Pogo · 2010-10-04T15:43:49.000Z

Major Icehole:

Really just posting this to get rid of phantom page 63

You’ve done the world a great service.

pg1 · 2010-10-04T16:58:03.000Z

The teaser info sounds great, just hope it works in multiplayer too!

chequers · 2010-10-04T17:14:26.000Z

Sweet. I am most looking forward to the fast travel world. Especially once mobs work gooder.

Marcin · 2010-10-04T17:18:33.000Z

pg:

The teaser info sounds great, just hope it works in multiplayer too!

He did include “fewer bugs” in MP, but I doubt everything will work.

Either way, pretty excited for the biomes and fast travel. That means I can finally restart and dedicate my train-making to its true purpose - fast way of getting into (and out of) the deeps. :)