Monster Hunter World!!!!!

[GatInDaHat]

Do you guys play with controller, or m+k?

[Nesrie]

M/KB on PC.

[GatInDaHat]

ahh ok that’s what I tried last night, it seemed pretty good… sometimes I was pointing my axe in the wrong direction though…

[Nesrie]

@GatInDaHat

sometimes I was pointing my axe in the wrong direction though…

That’s not really that uncommon, especially if you get stuck in a combo. You’ll see other do that. as you get used to your weapon, the game and even the monster, you’ll probably do that list.

There are a couple of really fast monsters that no matter what I do i wind up hitting air sometimes.

[rhamorim]

Controller here.

[Kyle700]

Controller here for sure. This game is designed for controllers. It works best with controllers. no reason not to

[KallDrexx]

@rhamorim

I’m in love with the Insect Glaive. I tend to prefer versatility over anything else, and no weapon in MH seems to give you more options than the Glaive. Mobility, good melee, ranged attacks, elemental and physical damage, good control/support, you name it. So good.

I loved the insect glaive in Generations, but I couldn’t get into a good groove in World for some reason. Having to toggle in and out of aiming mode was getting annoying, I wish I didn’t have to go in a specific mode just to aim the scarab.

[GatInDaHat]

Yeah it’s mostly when I’m in the thick of it and can’t really see which way I’m facing… I’ll get a handle on it, really enjoying learning combat.

[GatInDaHat]

Yeah I kind of want to play on the recliner/projector, but I’ve been reading that the controller is too slow and not great for ranged…

[Nesrie]

I had to get used to KB/M but it’s fine. I assure you though that the ranged players on XBOX and PS4 do just fine too. It reminds me of a fireworks when there are a couple of them around. I was a single melee with them in one quest a bit ago… pretty weird and cool watching that stuff go off around me. heh.

[Profanicus]

@GatInDaHat

but I’ve been reading that the controller is too slow and not great for ranged…

Lol the series has been using nothing but controller for almost 15 years…

[Bateau]

@Kyle700

First of all, you aren’t locked in the same direction even with the longsword. To me it sounds like you haven’t fully learned the weapon. It is complicated, and there is a lot of little tiny mechanics for each weapon that have a drastic impact on the way they are used. Have you been using the longswords new “counter” attack at all? you can immediately go into roundhouse slash if you successfully dodge an attack. Have you been taking full advantage of the lateral and backwards fade slash? you can use it to dodge an attack, then spirit blade in, then you are already on the 3rd spirit strike and can immediately go into a roundhouse. The longsword is incredibly nimble, and also btw, you can literally change directions with each new attack. On the sword and shield, you cannot imput directional attacks without thinking because it will do the new lateral strike, a way to stick on monsters faster and easier. Really, go watch Gaijin hunter videos on these weapons, they will be very illuminating.

I don’t know which tracker I use, but I suggest the one that doesn’t automatically follow the monster. Just use the one where you have to press L1 and it focuses the camera on the monster, I think it is the focus camera.

On the lower tier monsters, you can pretty much constantly attack them if you manuver around their legs effectively and don’t get hit by tail sweeps. The sword and shield is best for this, you can literally never leave a montser and just keep pointing him because it is so mobile and agile. The longsword is trickier, you have to pick your moments a lot better, take advantage of the ability to “wait” in between attacks (you can delay combos by quite a bit, it is very helpful. You don’t have to mash A and attack as fast as possible) and also, the fade slash really is your best friend.

I have watched all of Gaijin Hunter’s videos, as well as a few others. And yes I have been using the dodge->slash move, it’s great.

The longsword is incredibly nimble, and also btw, you can literally change directions with each new attack.

How? If I spam the standard Y combo (top button, not sure what it is on ps4 pads) all attacks go into the same direction, regardless of where I press my LS.

[Kyle700]

I’ve always been able to slightly adjust the angle of attack with each successive strike. You can’t do it with the overhead slashes but you can with the poke and the upwards slash. It isn’t like the lateral strike on sword and shield but more like a slight adjustment. And you can always combo into the poke so you can slightly change directions. you can press B (button on the right side, idk if its the same on all controllers) to do a poke in the middle of combos

the longsword is hard though. I’d suggest getting into roundhouse slashes by doing a fade slash into spirit blade into roundhouse. focus on tails, try to trip them, don’t get stuck doing really laggy moves like the double overheadswipe if you are against a fast monster

[Scott_Dobros]

@Kyle700

The charge blade is literally a game unto itself. It’s so much fun. Anytime I want to try a new weapon I just give up and switch back, it’s got everything. And there is such a high learning cap too, since you can combo almost any move to any other move infinitely.

I mean, right?

Variable chaining combos. Mobility with the sns (that sword slide around the monster is so badass). Knock out power. Tail chopping. Not to mention the meta game of trying to land that massively powerful super amped elemental discharge. Oh and blocking. Just started blocking with the shield. It’s fucking amazing.

And the transformer/voltron quality of combining the sword and shield into a massive axe never gets old.

<3 <3 <3 Totally in love <3 <3 <3

This leads me to a larger point: for any new monster hunters who are feeling a little underwhelmed and/or frustrated with the game, change your weapon. Each weapon is an entirely different game. And the variety is absolutely stunning. There are years and years and years of game development behind these weapons, and it shows.

[Bateau]

I’m also really starting to enjoy CB. Made some adjustments to my approach to combat and I’m generally having a much easier time now, though I still occasionally get trampled by monster charges - Rathian for example loves to run from one end to another for some reason.

I just can’t decide between S&S and CB. Both are really great but I’m leaning towards CB because the augmented shield is soooo good. On the other hand, free hand to use consumables on S&S is priceless. Argh! Decisions, decisions.

[Profanicus]

@Bateau

On the other hand, free hand to use consumables on S&S is priceless.

Ehhh that’s a newbie crutch. You don’t need it. ;)

Charge Blade rules! But I’m sticking to my guns and trying other weapons this time around. It’s been tough. :)

[Nesrie]

I say play whichever gives you the most joy. Also, there is nothing that prevents you from choosing the weapon of choice based on the monster or your team. You can maintain a few like quality weapons at any given time.

My sister dis Sword and Shield in Tri. She is all over the dual blades now. She adjusted to the can’t use an item whenever you like thing. I am using the SwitchAxe, but I am tempted to try something else.

[Kyle700]

@Bateau

I’m also really starting to enjoy CB. Made some adjustments to my approach to combat and I’m generally having a much easier time now, though I still occasionally get trampled by monster charges - Rathian for example loves to run from one end to another for some reason.

I just can’t decide between S&S and CB. Both are really great but I’m leaning towards CB because the augmented shield is soooo good. On the other hand, free hand to use consumables on S&S is priceless. Argh! Decisions, decisions.

The key with the charge blade is the dash in attack with Y and B. You wanna stay next to the monsters feet and kinda to the side so that they can’t charge you right away. You can roll out of the way and immediately dash back in towards their side with the dash attack.

the sword and shield and CB are very similar. They’ve got a similar sort of play style. I’d say learn both. :)

@Scott_Dobros

This leads me to a larger point: for any new monster hunters who are feeling a little underwhelmed and/or frustrated with the game, change your weapon. Each weapon is an entirely different game. And the variety is absolutely stunning. There are years and years and years of game development behind these weapons, and it shows.

Yes! I got frustrated in 4u using the longsword and switched weapons to the Bow, which was way way easier for me to use and down monsters. Then moved to sword and shield and charge blade. They are all easier than the longsword.

@Nesrie

I say play whichever gives you the most joy. Also, there is nothing that prevents you from choosing the weapon of choice based on the monster or your team. You can maintain a few like quality weapons at any given time.

My sister dis Sword and Shield in Tri. She is all over the dual blades now. She adjusted to the can’t use an item whenever you like thing. I am using the SwitchAxe, but I am tempted to try something else.

this is what is great about monster hunter. You can play any weapon you want, they are only there to give you variety. Heck, go to the end of the game using one weapon then start over with another and master that! It gives monster hunter its famous longevity haha.

[Nesrie]

@Kyle700

this is what is great about monster hunter.

100% agree. Other games will tell you you have all these choices but you wind up picking a path and sticking with it. MHW is really just… gear. And while i hoarded materials early worried I wouldn’t get enough to upgrade, int he end I think I juggled 3-4 different switch axes that could have easily been 3-4 different weapons instead. Also if I want to play with someone lower than my Hunter Rank and keep the battle fair, not like not clearly out power them, you can downgrade your gear easily and mostly get back to their level.

I didn’t find out until later how to do the saved presets… or whatever they call it, where you switch your gear out with one button. I recommend using this when you get past the I am just going to use the best I can get to the the charms and mantels and maybe this weapon will be better because of immunity stuff, and you can do it for low level play too.

[Kyle700]

the more I play, the more intensely and strongly I dislike random monsters showing up on hunts. It is so GODDAMN boring. I literally had to sit and watch this fucking pink rathian sit there and fight a legiana for 15 fucking minutes. I had no dung and they literally would fly from zone to zone and just attack each other. They did no damage it seems, and i’m just not going to fight a rathian and legiana together. that is simply not my idea of fun gameplay. It is just bad. I want to fight the monster I chose not a bunch of random shit that I just have to run away from ugh. I won the fight but it was just really lame and boring.

I also hate, HATE HATE the stun mechanic. Why on earth would you punish someone who already got hit by a massive attack and is out of position and likely about to die, by STUNNING THEM IN PLACE FOR 5 SECONDS, all but ensuring a cart. It’s such a dreadfully shitty mechanic and has no place in this game at all. Why anyone would do this after street fighter example is beyond me. Such a bad game design decision. I again finished this raid, but this happens at seemingly random times for no reason except MHW saying “fuck you today”