The more I see of it, the more I want it. Dave Lee is a pretty tough reviewer, that he is excited makes me want one more. I’m not buying an Android phone obviously, but I am excited to see what MS does with it.

At about 7 minutes, the comments about “mind the gap” at why I wouldn’t purchase one of these. It looks like a really nice device, IF you have the right use cases, but this doesn’t fit mine, as I don’t multitask a whole ton on my tablets/phones.

“You’d have to be some kind of psychopath to have a line right down the middle of your content.”

It really does look like a beautiful device if it fits your use cases, though. I bet someone who was a traveling, heavy email user could replace a smaller laptop with this and it would be a vast improvement. I could see this in the hands of almost every character in Succession.

Line down the middle means it doesn’t work as a tablet, it is two separate screens and should be treated as such. You won’t be watching movies stretched across.

Now I have two monitors at my computer and wouldn’t give that up for anything, but I really don’t see people doing real work on their phone unless they have no other choice. And beyond that, there really isn’t much of a use case for two screens.

See, I despise using 2 monitors. Give me one big monitor. At work everyone does this thing with their laptop in the middle as a 3rd screen and it drives me batty.

I guess I don’t think of this thing as a tablet, but even then I do side by side on my iPad a lot. I see this more as a portable notebook. Nice form factor, and the second screen easily accessible when I need it. I see it much more useful at work, where I am often away from my desk, than I do at home.

Can you share which one? I haven’t looked at that space in awhile.

I’m thinking about it like this. And thinking about trying it. I’d need to move my content off of Apple Notes, though.

Ugh, there isn’t a good way to do that I hear. One of the reasons I don’t use it (that and no Markdown support). I use Bear Notes/Drafts because exporting is really easy.

Sure. Works great, iMessage and all.

Thanks!

The beauty of running MacOS in a VM is it doesn’t need any custom kexts or anything, it’s completely vanilla, so upgrades work. I’ve upgraded that VM 3 times so far with no problems, although I do back up the disk file first just in case. I access the VM via VNC from my desktop.

It is an atrocious waste of RAM and CPU just for iMessage, but what’re you gonna do?

Note that if you plan to actually use a MacOS VM as your main desktop running locally, you will need to passthrough a GPU or it’ll feel slow without accelerated graphics.

Are you using WSL directly?

No, I have a separate linux box that I use for a bunch of stuff. It’s a little HP EliteDesk 800 G2 Mini with an i5-6500T, 16GB RAM, and a 256GB SSD that I got off eBay for $275 two years ago. Uses only 35w max, runs cool, and completely silent. There are a ton of them on eBay, be sure to buy from a highly rated seller.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=HP+EliteDesk+800+G2+Mini&_sacat=0&LH_BIN=1&rt=nc&RAM%20Size=16%20GB&_dcat=179

Oh, nice – thanks!

Yep, it’ll be a fun little quarantine project if you’re up for it!

It would be great if it were cheaper and lots of apps supported it. As a dual monitor user I can definitely see the benefit. But it’s not and they won’t. I wouldn’t be surprised if even MS app support was half hearted.

I don’t know, MS apps on iOS are pretty damn good. They aren’t desktop replacements, but you can use them for less complicated stuff quite well. They have really gone above and beyond on mobile from what I have seen.

Sure, but there will be approximately a million times as many iOS devices out there as Surface Duos.

Does anyone here use OneNote on Android? How is it?

For some odd reason, it isn’t as good as iOS/Mac or Windows versions. It STILL cannot read drawn page titles. There are some other limitations with drawing tools. I say it is odd because Windows talks about this great new integration with Android but still hasn’t improved OneNote.

I’ve figured out why the Surface Duo is intriguing for me: it reminds me of my first iPad mini. At the time there was no other device of that size and capability — just small enough to put into a coat pocket, with browsing capabilities and quality similar to the full-sized iPad.

I tried the early Nexus (I think) mini tablet and found it to be very disappointing. Now that Android has come such a long way in hardware quality, general performance, battery life, and tablet optimization, it feels like it might be time for another go — and this hardware looks good.

As I’m tying this on an iPad Pro w/Magic KB, it’s still hard to justify another device. But I’m tempted.

I can see that, they have comparable bezels.