Is it the alt-right concern about yourself (as in, your concern people think of you as alt-right) or the alt-right concern in society?
@M
Have your heard the idiom about the ‘Pot calling the Kettle black’?
My least favorite John Grisham novel.
I always liked A Time to Alt-Left
Menzo
3379
What the hell, dude? You’re the one who chased me into this forum only to rehash a series of posts from a Battlefield V thread in the gaming forum that died a couple days ago. I was over and done with it.
Nobody summoned you into this thread, you came in willingly.
It is both. I am concerned about the alt-right, but I can also see how this phrase, or what it represents, can be used to create a ‘them and us’ narrative that allows people to easily see a critic as ‘just one of them’… even subconsciously, or as sub-text… like a form of ‘boxing’ tactic.
I used to understand this thread. It made sense. Once.
That’s fine, but I’d leave the personal bit out of it; this forum has few rules, but one is we don’t drag in drama from other threads.
It is nothing personal, but it is a small world and co-incidences do happen. Topics can and do overlap etc etc. People have multiple interests. I’m trying a ‘new’ approach to discussions and questions.
Menzo
3384
Try whatever approach you want, but in this thread, we call Nazis Nazis, and I’m not going to equivocate or get into moral relativism about these people. Because some people deserve having a label slapped right on their forehead.
I didn’t ‘chase you’. You both happened to be here at a time of me listening to videos about tackling the alt right. I never mentioned ‘Battlefield V’ in this forum.
Basically, what I am trying to get at, is that people can end up using argument’s like “at least I’m not an alt-right mysogynist” or things to that effect, which can lead to closed-mindedness, and drive some people into the hands of the Right, or simply alienate those people.
I’m definitely not alien to left-of-centre politics, so I am at at least as aware of the actual problems in the campaign movement as I am aware of the potential good it can represent.
Nesrie
3387
I can assure you that no amount of meanness will ever make me a Nazis… ever.
Menzo
3388
These guys did not end up shouting “YOU WILL NOT REPLACE US” because someone was mean to them.
That is good for you, and probaby a commendable sentence, but it only reinforces your own belief, and makes you ‘better than them’… but the Republicans under Trump are in power… with the Alt right movement supporting Trump, so how do United States of Americans reconcile this conundrum?
How do you deal with the fact that you all live in the same country as each other?
Nesrie
3390
I have no idea why you just suddenly showed up in this topic like you did, but of course I am better than racists, sexist assholes with a history of violence and murder. A lot people are better than that, most!
Banzai
3391
We vote them out of office as quickly as possible and attempt to repair the damage they have done to our democracy. Then we channel 1/3 of the money spent on the miltary into actual education so that people have the critical thinking skills not to ever elect an authoritarian racist mysogonist traitor again. Or that would be my short list at least.
Yelling at them isn’t going to fix anyting.
That’s a good answer. What ground level tactics do you use to cause this to happen? Will you try to convince people to vote for the Democratic Party?
What happens to those Neo-Nazi people that you have shown pictures of? Do they ‘go away’? Are they to be ‘Re-educated’? Imprisoned?
What happens to these 20-30 year olds? Are they a ‘lost generation’? Will a campaign movement against this demographic start accusing other people of being ‘alt-right by association’?
What happens if the anti-alt-right campaign ends up looking like a group of intolerant people? How will you keep up a message of tolerance within your own ranks? It isn’t easy…
