ShivaX
3474
We canât afford to be what we said we were. We got money to steal and brown people to kill and fuck over.
Timex
3477
Everyone knows what Nazis fucking stand for.
At this point, his argument appears to be âwhen you X to own the libsâ, where X is âadvocate for genocide of all but the Aryan raceâ.
SooooooâŠyeah.
Founder of IKEA.
Fascist Involvement section:
âKamprad devoted two chapters to this time in Nysvenska Rörelsen in his book Leading by Design: The IKEA Story and, in a 1994 letter to IKEA employees, called his affiliation with the organization the âgreatest mistake of his lifeâ.[10] Kamprad explained his teenage engagement in New Swedish Movement as being politically influenced by his father and grandmother in Sudet-Germany.[20] In 2011, journalist Elisabeth Ă
sbrink revealed that by 1943 the Swedish Security Service had created a file on Kamprad entitled âNaziâ, and that Kamprad had told her in an interview in 2010 that: âPer Engdahl is a great man, and I will maintain that as long as I liveâ.[21]â.
So, yes, potential peer pressure can have an effect, even on people who grow up to be rich and famous. Do you buy from IKEA?
Remember when Pope Ratzinger (Benedict) used to be a Nazi youth? Any Catholics on this forum?
It is definitely up for debate whether people âreformâ or change from previously bigoted beliefs (or if they swap one form for another); government authorities & judicial services have those conversations all the time - it is literally their job to negotiate with rich, bigoted people in positions of power.
So, Iâm not advocating either position, because I donât know, and Iâm not in any position of power to make those judgements. But it does happen. Programmes of de-radicalisation have existed for a long time.
Too lax of moderation for one.
Menzo
3481
You kinda left out an important paragraph.
the BBC reported: âA Swedish expert on far-right extremism, Anna-Lena Lodenius, told Radio Sweden that Mr Kampradâs Nazi involvement could no longer be dismissed as the by-product of an accidental friendship with Per Engdahl. His involvement in another fascist organisation, she said, showed he must have been âperfectly awareâ of what it stood forâ. The BBC report also noted that a spokesman said that Kamprad âhad long admitted flirting with fascism, but that now, âthere are no Nazi-sympathising thoughts in Ingvarâs head whatsoeverââ.[23]
So yeah, fuck him and his affordable furnishings for every day living.
Accusations, accusations, accusations. Link was provided to the ENTIRE article so that people could read the rest if they wanted to.
Are you aware of what âto fuckâ means?
Menzo
3483
Yeah, specifically, I wish someone in Sweden who knew better would have punched this guy in the dick until he died back in the 1940s. Someone else would have figured out how to make cheap couches.
Nesrie
3484
Stop responding to him.
If there was any question earlier about why he chased you into this topic, it was answer awhile ago. He chased you and Timex in here to start some sort of weird circular logic argument for amusement. Heâs not genuine with any of his arguments.
No, I wanted to examine the issue in the forum. As I have said before, the fact that the two were here, and commenting beforehand, is completely beyond my control. Perhaps âyou lotâ are âthe big fish in a small pondâ.
And⊠by saying âhe only did this to chase youâ, and me having to reiterate otherwise, again, is creating this âcircular logicâ.
Menzo
3486
Meh, the whole exercise is interesting to me. Though I do hope he goes back to wherever he was a few days ago and never comes back.
But I have decided that my personal belief is that nazis and fascists should be punched in the dick until dead. Now I wonât do the punching, Iâm a lover, not a fighter, but I imagine we could find some people willing to do that.
Iâm certain that this stance disappoints PG (thatâs my new name for you, btw) greatly. Heâs probably decided that humanity just isnât ready yet for his alien interstellar jump drive just based on my responses alone.
But Iâm not going to get into some sort of moral relativity discussion about nazis and fascists and how we need to understand what theyâre thinking. Nope. Punch them in the dick until they die.
Thatâs how Iâd roll.
Youâve learned something about yourself. Perhaps this exercise wasnât futile.
Nesrie
3488
He was over in Battlefield V trying to chase womens away from games. You can see how that was a natural jump to come over here and talk about how great Nazis are.
Menzo
3489
Youâre right - I learned that I never needed this âmagicâ amulet. The magic was in my heart all along. Thanks dungeon master!
Again, simply not true. Circular logic and misrepresentation.
Menzo
3491
Oh no no no, thatâs not what it was about. Heâs totally cool with women in games. Hell his sister plays games!
What he doesnât like is when EA puts women in games when they werenât there before, because that means they are intentionally creating controversy and getting misogynists riled up. That in turn leads normal people to call them names, which they donât like, and that makes them sad.
So really, EA just needs to âlearn their placeâ and keep girls in games where girls belong. In The Sims? Totally cool with PG. But in a war game? No way, that makes some dudes sad. Not cool, EA. Not cool.
KWhit
3492
Haha. It all makes sense now. I assume heâs a gamergator too.