Heh, even though I grew up with TOS, TNG is the one I first really clicked with. There are bad eps, but I can watch most of 'em out of a sense of comfort and nostalgia. ;)
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I guess it’s the same reason I can still watch Lost in Space. :) Which should be on Netflix, dammit.
Agreed 100%. The collective mind was a far more interesting than attack of the space ants.
You guys are thinkin’ 'bout this waaaaaaay too hard.
I didn’t really like the queen myself.
And for the same reasons that have been mentioned before.
A shared mind vs queen run honey production.
Yeah, I didn’t like First Contact because of 2 reasons:
- Going back to the past to a time when the Earth was apparently a low budget boring place was so lame.
- As mentioned above, changing the Borg completely so that they now had a Borg Queen. (Picard: Ah yes, I remember you now! How could I forget you? Yes, Picard, how the fuck could you forget her, FFS?) It made the borg a lot less dangerous and less fascinating too.
Definitely the Next Generation movie I dislike the most.
Insurrection was at least like a regular episode of TNG. It didn’t feel like a feature film, just a regular 2 part episode that happened to be shown in theaters. Not a great two part episode, but not as bad as First Contact at least.
I actually didn’t mind Generations. I was just blown away that they would destroy the Enterprise that we’d been on adventures on for so many years, and I did love the concept of Paradise that they came up with for Picard and Kirk. I also liked Data getting the emotion chip working. All the individual elements were there, and it was great. I loved Data saying “YES” on the bridge when something cool happened. But, the whole thing just didn’t come together somehow. It had the elements of an epic, classic movie, but something was missing.
So, finally there was Nemesis, which I admit isn’t great either, but it is my favorite of the Next Generation movies. I did go see it twice because I loved the space scenes, the scenes between Picard and his Nemesis, and just the feeling that this was a plot worthy of a feature film, not just a Next Gen episode. It actually advanced the story past Deep Space Nine for the first time, and I was excited to know what the future held. It did have several poor moments though. The buggy scene was a fun way to start the movie, but pretty pointless.
I guess I’m just disappointed that Next Gen, which was such a great TV series, never really had a single good movie to its name. Nemesis was the only one that came close, and the rest were never even as good as the average Next Gen episode.
Was there an implication that the Borg intentionally “evolved” a queen, for various hand-wavy reasons of efficiency? Or did I make that up?
You just made it up I think.
Plus I like Locutus as the face of the Borg over the queen.
Locutus was merely a tool by the Collective to help with the assimilation of Earth.
The Queen rules the Borg. Never really thought of the Borg as ruled by one entity.
Another Locutus should have been added IMO. Can’t ge tPicard, fine we’ll use someone else. Or clone Picard.
lol, Star Trek speculation, so very fun.
Generations was the worst Trek movie due to the way they killed a legendary character in such a pathetic way. He deserved a better end.
I kind of felt like the TNG movies were a steady descent into awful, but I also matured quite a bit over the time between Generations and Nemesis so I might just have been developing better taste. DS9 is about the only Trek I think I’d be able to get much out of anymore.
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I like showing people Nemesis and then putting on Bronson for them.
Well, to be fair, he did die on the bridge, as he should have.
Ok, this had me laughing for almost a minute. Thank you so much for that.
Iron Sky is up now. I checked the thread and agree with some of the analysis. the movie was mostly comedy, but not all comedy. Some drama, but not really. I think if it had been a little more relentless in the comedy it might have been really cool. as was, I thought it was mostly entertaining, though i thought they didn’t quite capture the “Palin.”
And here I was beginning to think I was the only person who enjoyed Insurrection more than First Contact; and for exactly the reason you give.
I just finished watching Everything or Nothing. It’s a documentary about James Bond. As a big Bond fan, I just had to at least see what it was about exactly. I planned to watch the first five minutes, but it sucked me in and I just couldn’t stop until the credits completely stopped rolling.
The brilliant part about this documentary is that it uses music and action scenes from the Bond movies themselves to tell the story of Ian Fleming, Harry Shaltzman, Alfred Broccoli, Sean Connery, Roger Moore, and everyone else involved with the movies, all the way to Sam Mendes and even has scenes from Skyfall. Btw, Roger Moore looks pretty rough these days, and Sean Connery was the only Bond not interviewed directly for the documentary, but they have sound clips of him inserted right into the appropriate parts of the story from interviews he must have done at the time. It’s uncanny. It’s all just really well done.
Apologies if this was already mentioned (went back a few pages and didn’t see it) but Primer is now on instant watch. Haven’t seen it since it came out what feels like a million years ago, anxious to see it again. Highly recommended.