thamer
2001
It may not be at all. I’m not convinced spending millions on buying the Fallout IP is necessary at all if this is all you’re going to do.
I guess the free marketing from the shit storm that ensued was worth it.
Zylon
2002
It hinges on whether or not you liked Oblivion.
Sarkus
2003
G4 is showing it later or doing a live demonstration with Todd Howard and that will undoubtedly end up on their website, even if the MS thing doesn’t end up on the net in the next 20 minutes. :-)
Sarkus
2004
Why do you say that? There are quite a few Fallout fans that are watching this title because it’s a Fallout game that wouldn’t necessarily have cared had it been a generic Bethesda post-apoc game using the Oblivion engine. That’s what paying millions for the IP is for - generating interest.
Sure, not everyone is going to like the direction they took. But I fail to understand the idea that some people have that “Oblivion” is a bad word. There is still a very active community for that game even now, when the same can’t be said for a number of other recent RPG’s.
gasp
The horror!
You do realize you have a vendetta against a videogame, right? Say that to yourself.
You have a vendetta against a fucking video game/video game developer, and you’ve spent years of your life bitching about it.
Christ, you’re one pathetic human being.
nlanza
2006
I’d be proud of making something that pissed off nutbars like you too, honestly.
If you’re gonna make a Fallout game, you need to have the Fallout license.
I really don’t get you people sometimes. Or ever. What exactly was Interplay doing with the license that Bethesda having it means something bad? Last I checked, Brotherhood of Steel and Fallout Tactics were not, by any stretch of the imagination, great, classic games.
And guess what, Black Isle is gone. They moved on. They’re not ever going to make Van Buren. So get over it.
So your choice is Fallout 3 comes out or Fallout 3 doesn’t come out. But Fallout 3 is coming out. If you hate it, ignore it. Pretend it’s not official. Shit, don’t the real NMA lunatics ignore Fallout 2 anyway?
idrisz
2008
baah they removed groin and eye shot from fallout 3…
why!!!
I am shocked to hear you didn’t like it. Shocked.
Of course, you also said everything you didn’t want to see in a Fallout game is in there.
Was there donkey porn in the demo?
Or did you WANT to see donkey porn and it wasn’t in there?
Shadari
2010
And now you have a vendetta against a guy that has a vendetta against a video game.
Then again, I shouldn’t talk, because now I have a vendetta against a guy that has a vendetta against a guy that has a vendetta against a video game. ;)
Killzig
2011
I was underwhelmed. It looked like a giant grey slab on the screen. VATS did not look very good, following the bullet/grenade every time is going to be tedious (is there an option to disable that?), and the movement in first person looked weird. Don’t know how to describe it except to say it looked like one of though fly through videos people make for multiplayer maps. No weight to the movement at all.
Liked the live action Mr. Handy commercial in the trailer.
thamer
2012
You’re sort of contradicting yourself there. From a purely business perspective you should be fine making Oblivion 2 if it was any good. How many more sales are you going to get by spending millions just buying the Fallout name and IP?
That was my point.
In any case, as some other poster is trying to paint things, I don’t have a vendetta against Bethseda. It’s funny because Fallout 3 proponents are just as rabid as the opponents of Fallout 3. It’s turned into a topic that can’t even be discussed without flames.
thamer
2013
Are you guys posting from E3 or is this video somewhere I can see? Thanks.
Killzig
2014
I was watching the MSFT presentation online on IGN/G4 (went down pretty early for me)…
Sarkus
2015
You make it sound like an entirely financial decision. Clearly, it isn’t. Successful developers don’t just make an endless stream of sequels, they try and branch out, even if it’s into other similar types of games. Kind of like Warcraft versus Starcraft. Sure, they’re both RTS games, but there are differences. Should Blizzard have simply continued to make Warcraft sequels?
Bethesda buying the Fallout license should be viewed in the same way. Fallout 3 represents an attempt to make a parallel RPG franchise, this one being a post-apoc setting rather than traditional fantasy. I’m sure the devs are pretty happy to be doing something different, as well as working on a game that has been been designed for an M rating from day one. Using an IP that has already been defined by earlier games saves them some work and ensures interest in the project by fans of the previous games.
I’m pretty sure there is.
nlanza
2017
Yeah, see, we covered that like seven pages ago. You know, when you told us all you “barely read this forum anymore” and then kindly invited people to suck your dick?
It’s not that the topic “can’t even be discussed”. It’s that discussion is hard when it involves raving loonies.
Killzig
2018
video link for those that missed it:
thamer
2019
And the next six posts will involve bashing my posts and not discussing Fallout 3. Like that nut job that told me to go back to NMA – a site I barely visit.
EDIT: About the video. I guess no one takes cover in this game ever. That would have been a nice innovation over the original.
ElGuapo
2020
Can you show me one (1) rabid Fallout 3 proponent on this board?